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Supplementary To Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Question period is over. Mr. Ng.

Further Return To Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

As I indicated in previous answers, the regional implementation groups will be looking at what their needs are in the communication strategies including literature which is a specific part of that. Obviously if there were

requirements, it would be done in conjunction with the regional and cultural needs of that service area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Question 704-13(4): Breast Screening Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker. Return to written question 36-13(4) asked by Mr. Enuaraq to the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development concerning the transfer of renewable resource officer position in Broughton Island.

Return To Written Question 36-13(4): Transfer Of Renewable Resource Officer Position To Broughton Island
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

The Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development is currently working on a draft agreement to transfer the renewable resource officer position to the community of Broughton Island. However, an outstanding issue is the transfer of authority to enforce government legislation.

In an effort to address this issue, I have instructed Mr. Clay Buchanan, regional superintendent, Iqaluit, to meet with the Mayor and Council of Broughton Island. Mr. Buchanan will also discuss the costs associated with this position.

Return To Written Question 36-13(4): Transfer Of Renewable Resource Officer Position To Broughton Island
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Return to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Mr. Krutko.

Reply 4-13(4)
Item 9: Replies To Opening Address

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With regard to replies to opening address, we always hear this question about fairness, equity in all regions, communities across the north. Yet, I feel that my region has been under-utilized, and not getting the adequate support it should through this House to questions I raised as a Member of the Mackenzie Delta and particular Ministers. The Premier states in his opening address that this government will be cooperative in working along with Members of this House, communities, Aboriginal Summit and other organizations. The things that happened in this House seems to boggle our minds at times wondering who they represent. Do they represent big industry in regard to sole- sourced contracts, in regard to southern firms who seem to be getting a majority of this work, and also in regard to the residents of the Northwest Territories, who are not getting the adequate support on programs and services that they should be? Not a cut had been made over the last two years in dealing with the deficit. I am sure you can understand that. The practice at this government continues to be, support big business and forget the little people in the communities who do not have jobs; who have poor health care; who basically have high dropout rates in regard to alcohol and drug problems. It still seems to be not of much importance to this government, and this particular Minister.

I think that with the cuts that we made especially in my region, the healing program, Delta House, and also in regard to calls from my community, especially in relation to concerns of individuals who go to the hospital time and time again and not getting the adequate health care that they need. We even talked about fair, fair in what sense? Fair in regard to the bottom line? Or fair to the jobs that are basically created by large companies? Or fair that we are no better off than people that fly over us to southern corporations, the mining companies?

This government is spending thousands if not millions of dollars, catering to southern institutions, southern consultant companies. Yet we stand here and say we are working for the benefit of the Northwest Territories. At the end of the day, consultants will go home to southern Canada. The report will possibly sit on the shelf like most of them do, and the health care of the people of the Northwest Territories will continue to deteriorate. It states that we are elected as leaders to serve the whole Northwest Territories. Not just our ridings. Time and time again we talked about division happening in two years, in regard to allowing the Nunavut government and the people of Nunavut to decide for themselves what kind of government they want. Yet, we impose things on that government in relation to the type of institutions we are going to have to adopt, in light of there is 18 months to division. This government continues to find new ways of imposing structures on governments, and the people of the east.

It seems to me that this is just another way to create a new loophole in the bureaucracy we already have which basically meets the needs of a few individuals but not the needs of the territory as a whole. Mr. Speaker, I find it awfully interesting that time and time again I stand up in this House, I raise questions in relation to those issues and items; and we continue to say we will support each other, but at the end of the day, looking through the budget, going through the business plan seeing where a lot of money is being spent and seeing progress made in some regions, while none in others. Mr. Speaker, this government talks about representing the territory as a whole. I would like to ask when will it start? Thank you.

--Applause

Reply 4-13(4)
Item 9: Replies To Opening Address

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Mr. Henry.

Committee Report 9-13(4): Report Of The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

October 15th, 1997

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During the latter part of January and early February, 1997, the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly, the Honourable Sam Gargan, referred a total of four items to the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures. The committee was to discuss the amount of time allocated for both Members' statements and oral question period as proposed by the Member for Iqaluit, the reporting

procedures for an ad hoc or joint working groups as requested by the third person of the Ordinary Members' Caucus, and issues of order and decorum in the Legislative Assembly as directed by the Speaker. The standing committee met on February 6, 1997 to address these issues and finalize this report on October 10th, 1997.

First issue, Mr. Speaker, was Members' statements. The question before the committee on this particular issue was whether or not the existing two and a half minute time limit on Members' statements should be increased to three and a half minutes. While reviewing the issue, committee members noted that the existing time limit was the most generous of any legislature in the country. Members also noted that most other jurisdictions in Canada kept the total amount of time spent on this item each day, but the Northwest Territories' Legislative Assembly had no such restrictions. In addition to this, the committee recognizes that on any given day, a Member can ask for unanimous consent to have the two and a half minute time limit extended for his or her statement. Therefore, the standing committee on Rules and Procedures unanimously recommended that the maximum time allotted for a Member's statement remain unchanged at two and a half minutes.

The second item, Mr. Speaker, was the oral question period. The Standing Committee was asked to review the current 60 minute time allotment for oral question period and determine if there was a need to increase the limit to 90 minutes. While reviewing this issue, committee Members once again noted that the Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly has one of the longest oral question periods in the country and identified that just as with Members' statements, any Member could request unanimous consent to extend question period beyond the 60 minutes allotted. However, committee Members did outline their frustration with the fact that in some cases, much of the 60 minutes is taken up by both lengthy preambles to the question and long drawn out answers. The committee felt that oral question period could be improved by encouraging the Speaker to play a more active role in ensuring that both questions and answers are succinct and to the point. The Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures unanimously recommends that the current 60 minute time allotment for oral question period not be extended and further, that the committee supports the Speaker's strict application of the guidelines for oral questions and the rules of the Legislative Assembly.

Third topic was an ad hoc and joint working group reporting process. In recent months, Members of the Legislative Assembly have found it useful to establish an ad hoc and/or joint working groups to deal with specific issues that arise. However, the more open style of government, the new standing committee structure of the 13th Assembly and recent experiences with joint Minister and Member working groups have raised questions regarding who these groups report to, and where their authority is derived from? The Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures noted that committees made up of both Members and Ordinary Members should be used only under particular circumstances. In order to eliminate confusion respecting authority and reporting requirements, the committee felt that this special joint committee should only be established as provided under Rule 88(1) of the Legislative Assembly which states: at any time the Assembly may appoint a Special Committee for any purpose or to consider any matter referred to it by the Assembly. The committee recognizes that motions to establish special committees include the terms of reference for that committee, and if there authority is derived from the House, they report to the House. Therefore, the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures recommends that joint committees only be established under section 88(1) of the rules of the Legislative Assembly and having been so established, such committees shall report directly to the Legislative Assembly. On the ad hoc and subcommittee and working groups, the committee knows that the authority to establish a subcommittee or a working group must be derived from an appropriate legislative body in order to maintain accountability and provide a means of recording the group's findings.

Therefore, the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures recommend the following as the most appropriate process: - ad hoc committee, working groups and subcommittees are struck by a standing committee to address specific issues - subordinate body meets and develops its report to the standing committee from which this authority is derived - the standing committee, at its pleasure, reviews and/or revises and adopts the report as deemed appropriate and under the authority vested in the standing committee as a body of the Legislature, the committee may present the report to the House.

On the question of order and decorum, Members' attire, this issue referred by the Speaker arose as a result of an incident in the House whereby a Member felt that the attire of another Member was offensive. The Standing Committee reviewed the section of the rules of the Legislative Assembly prior to recommending a mechanism to help deal with such situations.

Rule 12(9) states when in the Legislative Assembly, every Member shall be attired in native dress or in a manner appropriate to the dignity of the Assembly. During the discussions, Members soon discovered that to define native dress or in a manner appropriate would be almost impossible and instead suggested that the issue of appropriate attire be left to the prudent discretion of the Speaker.

The committee therefore recommends that the following process be established: if a Member is offended by the attire of another Member, he or she may bring the issue to the attention of the Speaker in writing, outlining the nature of the concern and requesting the Speaker's intervention. If, in the Speaker's opinion, an intervention is warranted, the Speaker would bring the matter to the Member's attention in writing and require that the Member retire from the Chamber and remove or replace the offending attire. Many Members feel that this would not only alleviate concerns with respect to what is and what is not native dress or appropriate attire, but will also preserve the Speaker's latitude in determining appropriate attire in accordance with tradition, custom and convention. Furthermore, the committee feels that this approach would preclude public debate on such issues and avoid embarrassment, embarrassing any particular Member.

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures.

Therefore, I move, and seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake that the report of the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures be received by the Assembly and adopted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Committee Report 9-13(4): Report Of The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Do we have a quorum? The motion is in order, but we do not have a quorum. Mr. Clerk, would you ring the bell? I recognize quorum. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried. Reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Report 9-13(4): Report Of The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I seek consent to go back to Item 7, written questions.

Committee Report 9-13(4): Report Of The Standing Committee On Rules And Procedures
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent to return to Item 7, written questions. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Krutko, you have unanimous consent.

Written Question 37-13(4): Listing Of Funding Sources For Mammography Machine
Revert To Item 7: Written Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Written question to the Minister of Health and Social Services. In 1997, the Northwest Territories remains the only jurisdiction which has not yet officially initialled plans for implementing a territory-wide organized screening and mammography program for the early detection of breast cancer. Could the Minister provide comprehensive listing of possible funds from sources within his department or any existing programs that may be used to assist in the purchase of a mammography machine for the Stanton Regional Hospital?

Written Question 37-13(4): Listing Of Funding Sources For Mammography Machine
Revert To Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Written questions. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Mr. Erasmus.

Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report to the Legislative Assembly that the Standing Committee on Government Operations has reviewed Bill 23, An Act to Amend the Elections Act and wishes to report that Bill 23 is now ready for consideration in committee of the whole, as amended and reprinted. Mr. Speaker, I would seek unanimous consent of the House to waive Rule 70(5) and have the bill ordered into committee of the whole for today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Mr. Dent.

Tabled Document 117-13(4): A Report On Progress: A Strategy To 2010
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled, A Report on Progress, Strategy to 2010. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 117-13(4): A Report On Progress: A Strategy To 2010
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Morin.

Tabled Document 115-13(4): Official Languages Policy And Guidelines Manual
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document entitled, Official Language Policy and Guidelines Manual. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 115-13(4): Official Languages Policy And Guidelines Manual
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Tabling of documents. Mr. Todd.

Tabled Document 116-13(4): Workers' Compensation Board: 1996 Annual Report
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document entitled, Workers' Compensation Board 1996 Annual Report. Thank you.

Tabled Document 116-13(4): Workers' Compensation Board: 1996 Annual Report
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Miltenberger.

Tabled Document 118-13(4): Summary Of Ardicom Digital Network Meeting
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the summary of the Ardicom Digital Network Meeting held Tuesday, October 14, 1997.

Tabled Document 118-13(4): Summary Of Ardicom Digital Network Meeting
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Picco.

Tabled Document 119-13(4): Summary Of GNWT Contract Spending 1996-97
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to table a document that gives an analysis of the contract report, as issued by the Government of the Northwest Territories, excluding the boards and agencies of our government.