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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. The honourable Mr. Dent. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that would be correct. There is no guarantee, of course, that we are guaranteeing the funding. It would still be based on the numbers of clients that would be going through those treatment centres. If they were to achieve the 80 percent or plus over the course of the year as an average, then they would have received all the funding they would have been entitled to, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. I will recognize Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, when I was in Taloyoak in January of 1997, I had the opportunity to visit a couple. The woman of the house had a stroke some years ago and is confined to a wheelchair. Her husband is able to get around, but he has a heart condition, thereby depending upon his pacemaker. I was sadden to learn there was no service provided to the couple. When I talked to them, the lady indicated to me it would be nice if, for once or twice a week, somebody would come to the house and do some cleaning for the couple. I think there is justification in this case. I will provide the name of the couple at a later time outside this quorum, but my question for the Minister, Mr. Chairman, is there any type of program that would be there to provide some type of service to help them out with cleaning the house? Is there a program under this community and program services to provide such service to people who are in dire need? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, depending on the circumstances and the needs of the family, as the honourable Member says. There is a homecare program we financed to boards to provide homecare services for those in need. That would not go as far as basic hoard type activities, because there is a difference there. Things like cleaning up the house and those type of things, the homecare program is not designed for that. That would be more along the lines of something that could be looked after in one of the income support reforms through Education, Culture and Employment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Mr. Ng, you are saying there is no program ?

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am saying there is a homecare program, through the homecare

funding we give out to boards to provide homecare services for those in need.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Mr. Chairman, I think there is a justification in this case, and I feel badly when I went over to see the couple and found out there was no type of service given to that family. Will the Minister, if I provide him with the name of the couple, direct his official at the regional level to look into the matter? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would be willing to bring up the issue of the specifics to the Kitikmeot Health Board, to have them address the needs of those constituents, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. I have Mr. Henry on my list. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, my question is on addiction programs. Do they have any statistics available to them as to the number of times the same clients access the services in these treatment centres?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, generally speaking, we do have those statistics.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, a common criticism I have heard of the treatment centres is the number of times clients re-use the services. Has the department looked at a way of curtailing the use of the services, after two or three uses? Have they looked at setting any types of restrictions on the numbers of use by the same clients? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we are aware of that issue. We know of many instances from the smaller communities, where there has been repeat clients to treatment programs for whatever reasons; if it is court ordered, if it is required to keep their children or whatever the circumstances are. There are other times, Mr. Chairman, where the individual can not come to terms with his abuse problem. It is a continual battle for them.

What we are planning on doing is to deal with this issue and to have the referrals made through the communities in the new referral system, so there is more peer pressure, more acknowledgement of the circumstances for those individuals people know are going out. There is an expectation, maybe a higher expectation, which might alleviate some of the repeat types of treatment for those individuals. As well, we are looking at putting in place a maximum number of times an individual can go for treatment. We are looking at a figure of three times right now, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, a final question. The Minister mentioned they have statistics on numbers of times people access the program. Could he give me some examples of that and also what the average cost across the territories would be to have a client go through a treatment centre for one period of time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, a thirty day program would run about $4,000, given the figures that we have. Although we recognize there have been individuals that are repeat clients, I do not have any specifics here for that information, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. For the record we are on Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997/98, Health and Social Services, community programs and services, operations and maintenance. I have Mr. Roland.