Debates of Feb. 21st, 1997

This is page numbers 769 - 801 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Community Development Approach To Empowerment
Scouting And Guiding Week In Canada
Yellowknife Scouting And Guiding Movement
GNWT Telephone Directory
Light Reading Materials
Passing Of Inuvik Elder Effie Rogers
Congratulations To Bruce Rigby
NWT Birth Rate
Passing Of Arviat Elder Lucy Aiyarani
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Future Of The NWT Power Corporation
Iqaluit Ers Training Funds
Impacts Of Communications Privatization
Lease Arrangements Beyond Division
Nationwide Academic Tests
NWT Arts Council Funding Guidelines
Allocation Of Polar Bear Quotas
Hunter Traffic Between Rae And Colomac
Use Of Equipment At Delta House
Post Division Power Corporation Structure
Funding For Revenue Initiatives
Implementing Plan 2000
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Recommendation For Standing Committee Consideration Of Alcohol And Drug Strategy
Recommendation For Health And Social Services Support Of Key Fas/fae Priorities
Recommendation To Hold Fort Simpson Projects, Group Home And Violence Shelter Pending Final Decision On Use Of Hospital
Recommendation That Inuvik And Iqaluit Hospital Replacements Begin In 1998/99
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 19-13(4): Recommendation To Hold Fort Simpson Projects, Group Home And Violence Shelter Pending Final Decision On Use Of Hospital
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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What types of things still have to occur before we know if construction will actually begin in 1998, as the Minister has indicated he hopes to do?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, primarily we have to know what programs are going to be delivered out of both facilities and how they will fit into health care systems, both east and west. We would have to have the programmable space based on those programs. We will need architecture drawings, engineering drawings, site locations, costing, construction cost, and most importantly securing financing, both from the federal government in respect to their obligations with the health transfer. Also, in respect to some of the possible private financing sources that would be required to bring these projects on line, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are dealing with Baffin region. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister indicated the possibility of private financing. Could he explain that a little bit more please?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as we know, coming up with the total capital dollars out of our budget for both these major facilities will place an undue hardship on our capital program and on our fiscal resource of this government. We are looking at the possibility of having private investments to help pay for the construction of these projects, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would that private involvement only be for the construction or also for running the hospital?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, right now we are just looking at the financing for getting the hospitals built and ready as soon as possible, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. I have total region, $100,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make a committee motion under detail of capital, committee programs and services page 6-17. Total contributions of $1,877,000. I move that this committee recommends a decision to be made on the Inuvik and Iqaluit hospital replacements, to allow the projects to begin no later than the fiscal year 1998/99.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Roland, your motion is not in order. It does not fit into the detail of capital specific line. You should wait until total contributions which is the next line. Mr. Roland, do you have a question as well as a motion? I recognize Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the hospital project is a major project in our riding. The Minister just told us the $11 million today has been transferred from the Feds for the construction, I understand, specifically for the Nunavut hospital to be built in Iqaluit. My question to the Minister is: the $11 million that has already been transferred by the Feds to this government, do we have to pay that money back to the Feds before we start our program, or is there any type of reimbursement in the original transfer agreement for that money?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. I have total region, $100,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Total contributions. Mr. Roland.

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February 21st, 1997

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Strike number two. I would like to make a committee motion, Mr. Chairman. Under detail of capital, committee programs and services page 6-17, total contributions of $1,877,000. I move that this committee recommends that a decision be made on the Inuvik and Iqaluit hospital replacements, to allow the projects to begin no later than the fiscal year 1998/99.

Committee Motion 20-13(4): Recommendation That Inuvik And Iqaluit Hospital Replacements Begin In 1998/99
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Henry. First of all before I recognize you, Mr. Henry, I have to ask the mover if he wants to speak to his motion. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 20-13(4): Recommendation That Inuvik And Iqaluit Hospital Replacements Begin In 1998/99
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This government has had an agreement with the federal government for a number of years now, since 1988, on the construction of the Inuvik and Iqaluit hospitals. In the time of restraint, we have

run into difficulties to see this mature itself. As a committee and hearing the concerns from the communities both from east and western Arctic, the committee has felt this motion is needed to enhance the importance of these facilities going ahead, especially before division comes about. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. To the motion, Mr. Henry.