The Ministers are under instructions to be here during the question period, Mr. Speaker. However, there are times when circumstances prevail, the Ministers are unable to be in the House as are Ordinary Members. Thank you.
Debates of Feb. 21st, 1997
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Further Return To Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Item 6: Oral Questions
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Further Return To Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
We will recess until 1:30 pm.
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Further Return To Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Question 374-13(4): Implementing Plan 2000
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The House will come back to order. We are on item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters, Bill 8, Committee Report 2-13(4), Committee Report 3-13(4), Committee Report 4-13(4) and Committee Report 6-13(4) with Mr. Steen in the chair.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
February 20th, 1997
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The Chair Vince Steen
I would like to call the committee to order. Before the committee for consideration today, Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997-98; Committee Report 2-13(4) Standing Committee on Government Operations, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates; Committee Report 3-13(4) Standing Committee on Infrastructure, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates; Committee Report 4-13(4) Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates; and Committee Report 6-13(4) Standing Committee on Social Programs, Report on the 1997/98 Main Estimates. If the committee agrees, we will continue with Health and Social Services.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Agreed. Thank you. I would like to ask the Minister if he would like to have witnesses present.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Yes, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Vince Steen
The Sergeant-at-Arms may bring in the witnesses. Thank you. I would like the Honourable Minister Ng to introduce his witnesses.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman to my right David Ramsden, deputy minister to my left Warren St. Germaine, director of financial management services. Thank you.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Ng and welcome to the committee. We were on page 6-14 on the main estimates, community programs and services, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $142,171,000. Mr. Erasmus.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yesterday, the Minister indicated the maximum amount of times a person would be allowed to go to treatment would be three times. I know from speaking to people working within the alcohol and drug treatment area that one of the major problems in the past has been improper assessment of a person prior to going to treatment. I would like to know, since a person is only going to be able to go three times or thereabouts, I guess it has not been finalized yet, what is being done to improve the assessment of people going for treatment?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we are trying to put more of an emphasis on that by having it done through one central point in the community, so there will be some consistencies in some of the pre-assessments of individuals requiring residential treatment, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Those people that are the central agency or the central point in the communities, would they all have proper training to ensure they can give advice and assess people properly?
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the intent would be that they would be provided with some additional resources, primarily in the role of the regional alcohol and drug specialists, where that individual would be freed up from actually doing the assessment and referrals and they would provide support to the community individuals tasked with that, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When will this come into place? I do not mean when actually this new policy will be started, but when or let us say, do the previous times a person has gone, will those count? Or are the one to three chances that a person have will that only now be starting? Will he be starting with a brand new sheet?
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this would be a new referral process, so I would anticipate that it would be starting from a fresh slate. I would like to say that we are not saying, because the individuals have been there three times and failed to complete or successfully abstain, they would necessarily be deprived of the fourth opportunity per se. All we are saying is if it got to that point, where an
individual did go through the program three times and still requires residential treatment, we would put more of an emphasis on some of the pre-assessments of that individual before he would go back for that fourth time. In other words, to make sure they are more prepared for undertaking the needs of the program. Thank you.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before we get final agreement, I do not want to jump in ahead of any more questions, but I have some motions I would like to make under this particular activity. If you could keep that in mind before we have the final agree, I will make the motions when questions are finished, if that is agreeable. Is that agreeable with the chair?