Thank you, Mr. Picco. Minister Dent.
Debates of Feb. 24th, 1997
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Committee Motion 22-13(4): Recommendation For Additional Funding To Adult Education In September 1997
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Member will be aware all government
departments prepared Inuit Employment Plans. It is through such functions that this department co-ordinates government-wide activities when it comes to requirements for training and upgrading and so on.
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Committee Motion 22-13(4): Recommendation For Additional Funding To Adult Education In September 1997
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Will we be continuing the management training programs learned by this government at one time through culture and careers? I still believe, up to today, we have courses where senior Inuit staff have been identified or aboriginal staff, for that matter, have been identified for positions in management and we would be leading these in-house sub-management training programs. We have had some success with those. I wonder what is the status of that training program and has it been tied into the unified training program for Inuit and the public service? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Committee Motion 22-13(4): Recommendation For Additional Funding To Adult Education In September 1997
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the department works at helping to co-ordinate on-the-job training or management training, similar to what the Member has asked about. Although there has been much more of an emphasis in the last year at co-ordinating programs offered through the unified training human resources development strategy. The in-house programs are funded by the sponsoring departments. We are prepared to assist in developing those programs, as departments are in need of assistance to do that.
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Committee Motion 22-13(4): Recommendation For Additional Funding To Adult Education In September 1997
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a motion.
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Committee Motion 24-13(4): Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The motion is now being distributed in both English and Inuktitut. I move that the Department of Education, Culture, and Employment, immediately consider withdrawing any layoff notices to interpreter/translators within the Language Bureau until the department has received support from the Standing Committee on Social Programs for the revised plan for delivery of interpreter/translator services. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Committee Motion 24-13(4): Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the reason for moving this motion is, I have not seen widespread support for the layoff of the interpreter/translators within the Language Bureau. The reason for moving this motion is to try to have the department revamp and find out from the language communities if and when they want to do this. Going into division, we believe the Language Bureau is doing a very important job for the Inuktitut language and culture in our region, therefore, we need these positions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Committee Motion 24-13(4): Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thought I would clarify that the Member for Iqaluit has put a motion on the floor and I would have difficulty with this, seeing that the Social Programs Committee did not consider this motion before it came here. Thank you.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Roland. I do not know whether you are speaking in support of the motion or against the motion. I will ask the mover to, in his final response, to clarify. To the motion. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
I will be supporting the motion. I think it is about time we dealt with the whole issue of aboriginal languages, especially in my region, the Gwich'in language, which is a dying language. Without those interpreters the constituents that I represent, when they hear the translation of what happens in this House in the Gwich'in language, a lot of people are interested in what goes on in the government. Without that translation service, and other services in the courts, a lot of people will be denied due process because they do not understand the procedures. Without these people that we do have, who are qualified, and have been in place for a number of years and assisted other people to get into this field through the language bureau and other areas that we have been involved in. We have to continue to support this initiative, especially salvaging or recovering a language which has been lost. I am supporting the motion.
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Committee Motion 24-13(4): Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have difficulty supporting this motion because the services are still going to be there, but on a contract basis as opposed to an employee/employer relationship with the territorial government. I do not have any information before me that would show a comparison of that or prove that this is an unwise or imprudent move by the government. Without any information before me, I cannot support this motion. Thank you.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. To the motion. I recognize Mr. Picco as the final say.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am surprised by some of the comments by some of the Members. Some of the notes that I am receiving. I think it is anywhere between 15 to 20 positions that we are talking about. If anyone wants to say, on the record, that people are telling them they want to be laid off, I would like to see that. I have not had anyone phone me, telling me they wanted to lose their jobs. The second point, Mr. Roland says the social programs have not considered this motion. I have written the social programs committee twice, and I respect that they brought it up in their meetings. I asked for the committee to have a presentation for Mr. Dent on this proposal. I have spoken to the different language communities about Inuktitut language services. They were not in support of losing the interpreter/translators. Mr. Barnabas made a point that the interpreter/translator services and the Language Bureau are more than just interpreting and translating. I would
rather have someone working at $60,000 a year than have to go and try to get this book here translated at $30 or $40 a page. At the proper time, Mr. Chairman, I will ask for a recorded vote on language services and we will see how it goes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Picco. I understand the Member is asking for a recorded vote. I will know call for the vote. All those in favour of the motion, please stand.
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Picco. Mr. O'Brien. Mr. Krutko. Mr. Rabesca. Mr. Evaloarjuk.
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Committee Motion 24-13(4): Recommendation For Withdrawal Of Layoff Notices To Interpreters/translators
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Roland. Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Henry. Mrs. Groenewegen.
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