Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have talked to the mayor about the situation. Mr. Cleveland will be meeting with their administration in the near future. We are hopeful that we will have an amicable settlement in the next few weeks. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Debates of Feb. 25th, 1997
Topics
Committee Motion 25-13(4): Recommendation To Retain Baffin And Keewatin Regional Librarians In The 1997-98 Budget
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Committee Motion 25-13(4): Recommendation To Retain Baffin And Keewatin Regional Librarians In The 1997-98 Budget
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We are reviewing details, grants and contributions. Contributions cover pages 9-26, 9-27, 9-28 and 9-29. Mr. Miltenberger.
Committee Motion 25-13(4): Recommendation To Retain Baffin And Keewatin Regional Librarians In The 1997-98 Budget
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion under details of grants and contributions, early childhood intervention, page 9-28.
Committee Motion 25-13(4): Recommendation To Retain Baffin And Keewatin Regional Librarians In The 1997-98 Budget
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger. Proceed with the motion please.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends that early childhood intervention funding be allocated for the development of an education/training module on FAS/FAE in co-operation with the FAS/FAE strategy group.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The motion is being circulated to the Members and the motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Picco.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Do we have a quorum, Mr. Chairman, for the vote?
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Picco. I shall ring the bell. Thank you. The chair recognizes the quorum. Mr. Miltenberger, for the record will you please read your motion again? Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
I move this committee recommends early childhood intervention funding be allocated for the development of an education/training module on FAS/FAE in co-operation with the FAS/FAE strategy group.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, honourable Member. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question is being...Mr. Miltenberger, did you want to have a final say to the motion.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Very quickly if I may, Mr. Chairman. We are recommending this funding be taken out of the money that is already in the budget. We are not suggesting that there be new money. This is a very important initiative that has an effect on a lot of the children across the north, as the member from Iqaluit pointed out from his statement a number of weeks ago on a study of Inuvik. We think this is an area that has to have funding devoted to it, so we can better address the whole range of concerns related to this very critical condition that affects so many of our children. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. All those in favour to the motion? Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Social Programs Committee has looked into this and there is very little material for teachers to use when they are working with children that are affected by fetal alcohol syndrome and fetal alcohol affects. It is very difficult to work with these children because of the way the alcohol has affected them. It is almost like things do not connect. If you look at a circuit, it could be that part of a circle is missing, so it does not quite connect. For that reason, teachers have a hard time with children and they need to develop some type of manual which can be used across the north. It would not only be for one area, for one school, for one region or whatever, it could be designed so people right across the north could use it. We did contact the teachers in the Yellowknife schools and we were informed that there is very little to use and it is a very complex area and they would greatly appreciate anything that we can do to assist them. I will be voting in favour of this motion. Thank you.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion. Question is being called, all those in favour, signify. Down. Thank you. Opposed. The motion is carried. Thank you. Contributions, I have Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Yes, Mr. Chairman. I have another question on community income support delivery. The Minister indicated this funding is for all of the communities, but then Mr. Chairman, he indicated the $3 million for Iqaluit included the funding that would have been or similar to other communities. I presume Iqaluit is not included in the $1.4 million?
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Groenewegen. Before I recognize Mr. Dent to reply or respond to question, I would like to recognize Madam Groenewegen. Madam Groenewegen, thank you.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just in returning to the House, I now note you are on the page on which I would like to declare a conflict. Mr. Chairman at this point, I would like to advise the Members of a business which I control, Greenway Limited Holdings leases office space to Arctic College, which falls under the authority of the department of Education, Culture and Employment. As such, I make conflict and in consideration of this line item I would like to declare a conflict and refrain from debating this matter and withdraw from the committee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. That is noted. Mr. Dent.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, regarding program delivery in Iqaluit, there are $3 million which may in fact only be program dollars. It may not include the administration, contrary to what I said earlier. One of the issues which is under discussion is the cost of administration that Mr. Picco referred to and I have talked to the mayor of Iqaluit about this. It is somewhat difficult for me to answer right now. When the income support program was handed over to Education, Culture and Employment from Health and Social Services, nine PYs were transferred at the same time. Obviously, nine PYs were not enough to do program delivery across the Northwest Territories but that is what we received. Some of those PYs will still be shown under culture and careers ongoing positions rather than here in contributions. I would have to do some research to find out exactly where the administration costs to Iqaluit shows up. We are proposing Iqaluit use the same formula that is being used in other areas and that is one of the things we are discussing with the mayor and town council at this point in time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We have Mr. Steen and Mr Roland. Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, can the Minister indicate to me whether Iqaluit is the only one that has a program and services agreement with this government?
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As well as Iqaluit, Cape Dorset, through the community transfer
process, also took over delivery of income support. There are a number of communities that we are currently negotiating with to take on program delivery. At this point, I believe those are the only two communities that we have signed agreements with.
Committee Motion 26-13(4): Recommendation That Funding Be Allocated To An Fas/fae Education/training Module
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister explain to me why Cape Dorset is not listed here as one of those communities with a service agreement?