Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not trying to be confrontational or adversarial. I see this as a concern that is territorial-wide. I appreciate the Minister getting together with his staff. I raised it about two weeks ago in the House and another two weeks is a month. I do not know what the tender contracts are calling, if these buildings are for sale, if they are closing. I agree with the Minister that we should review it. Again, I would like to reiterate to the Minister that I would be interested in any follow-up letters that he sends to make them public, not just to me but to the House, to the people of the Northwest Territories, because the House will not be sitting in two weeks, the next sitting is May. Maybe then our Renewable Resource Department, under the environmental protection area, could put out some type of press release or inform the public between now and May so the people of the Northwest Territories know exactly what is happening on this issue. I have received several phone calls, letters and e-mails since this was in the media two weeks ago when I first brought the issue up. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Debates of Feb. 26th, 1997
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I agree with you. We need to do some work. We shall try to keep the Member informed in Iqaluit including other Members of the Legislature and keep the public informed as well of any developments in regard to this issue. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Minister. I have environmental protection services, operations and maintenance. Mr. Roland.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the area of protection services, the document area, we have an area for community energy planning. Can the Minister inform me and this House on what is encompassed in this area of community energy planning? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, I believe community energy planning is to help communities do a preliminary assessment of what their energy requirements are and how they have been utilizing the energy and researching the way in which they expend that energy. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am wondering if a community could use this to look at the existing systems they have in the area of updating and changing the way they supply heat, for example, and other services to the community.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, we have worked with the Association of Municipalities to do two pilot projects, one is in Fort Simpson, I believe the other one is in Cape Dorset, to do basically a community energy audit that would do a study on the energy consumption of those communities and the manner in which the energy is expended, the cost and to look at ways of improving the cost to government, to the consumers. Those are the two that we are doing and we are doing those presently. If the Member has a specific suggestion about another area where that could be done, we would be prepared to look at it within the resources we have.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Before I go to your next question, on behalf of Mr. Ootes, Member for Yellowknife Centre, I would like to introduce Lanny Cooke, executive director, YK Association for Community Living.
-- Applause
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The Chair John Ningark
And Marlene Grooms, family support worker with YK Association.
-- Applause
Mary-Ellen Johnston, FAS co-ordinator with YK Association.
-- Applause
Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Chairman, a point of privilege. That is on behalf of all Members of Yellowknife.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Mr. Ootes, you do not have a point of privilege.
-- Laughter
You are welcome. I am on environmental protection services, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $1,781,000. Agreed? Mr. Ningark.
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, Kitikmeot region is one region where the DEW Line site runs right through. In Pelly Bay, we have one DEW Line site which is abandoned about 16 miles east of Pelly Bay and we have another one 16 miles west of Pelly Bay. The community has very strong concerns about a number of things, one is the fact there are contaminant substances in one area. I was told by local hunters that the barrels at the DEW Line site east of Pelly Bay have all kinds of debris. We have 45 gallon drums. Some are getting rusty. Others are still intact all over that place. A number of people have spoken to me that we have spring run-off running right to the ocean and we have spring run-off into the lakes. My question to the Minister, will the Minister communicate with the hamlet council of Pelly Bay to get the details and facts about the concern I just related to the Minister? Thank you.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, we can do that. To inform Members, including Mr. Picco and Mr. Ningark, we scheduled a meeting for sometime tomorrow with the staff to deal with this issue. We have moved it up from two weeks from now to sometime tomorrow. Thank you.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you. Page 11-13, detail of capital, environmental protection services, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $450,000. Mr. Roland.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, this money is available to communities and groups that wish to make proposals. The proposals would be entertained where there would be some immediate return. For instance, if there are significant savings to be made by a capital investment, for instance, a water intake system is heated to the tune of a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, if someone brought us a proposal for $100,000 or even $200,000, they could
dramatically reduce that O and M cost on an annual basis. We would provide the capital money for something like that. Proposals that require capital money to be expended in order to reduce the ongoing O and M costs would be the type of proposals we would entertain for this particular pot of money. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This funding is not allocated as yet, but it is available to communities once this is passed?