This is page numbers 879 - 917 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I feel very well, thank you. My point was in the east/west split, that was not what I was trying to point out. When I look at the money spent, I can only go by the figures, the actualities. When I look at, for example under building and works, Yellowknife, I see $2.3 million for capital projections for their park.

When I look at my region of this world, I see $50,000 for my community for one park. I wanted to point out I did go to the resource committee meeting. I did ask the Minister several months ago, when the budget was being prepared about the capital plan for the Sylvia Grinnell Park in Iqaluit, which is a park adjacent to our community which is heavily used, which I enjoy taking my family to. It has very few facilities there. Right now there is a shelter there that is 15 years old. It is suffering from vandalism. You cannot use it. It is supposed to be there for bad weather or refuge. It looks like it will be about $100 thousand just to replace that. There are no toilets there. There are old and ancient privies. There is a concern they are a health hazard. That is why I am bringing this point up. I know the department has looked at the Sylvia Grinnell Park to try to upgrade it. I am not trying to say it is an east/west thing. All I am trying to say is in this case, because I did bring the substantiation forward in the Resource Committee, I did ask the Minister at the time and I see $50,000 for that project, which is really heavily used, because one of the issues that the Minister brought up is the parks here are really heavily used, whether in my community Sylvia Grinnell Park is used by the majority of the population. Again, my question would be to the Minister, would he be reviewing the capital estimates in future years anticipated, because I could go through a litany of things in my community for that park. When I look at Iqaluit, Sylvia Grinnell Park, there is nothing in the future years anticipated for that project. That was my point. I am not trying to be confrontational or adversarial. I am not trying to make accusations that money is going west and not going east. That is not what I said. I am just pointing out, in this particular incident, $50,000 to upgrade my park when there is no other money available for our community, to me is not acceptable. I did make the representations to the Minister, so I am only asking, could he review the capital projections for that park again to see if we could make some monies available? I refer to resource management and economic development on page 11-14, which is parks, which plans for the capital, that is why I am asking on this page.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Minister do you have a response?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are aware there is not a great deal of capital money being allocated for this particular park this year. Over the next four to five years, there is a total allocation of over $1 million, we are projecting and anticipating, at least on an annual basis, in excess of $200,000 for that particular park. If goodwill prevails and economic conditions continue, the financial outlook remains optimistic, we will spend the money. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Picco, before you go on with your question. Could I remind you we are still on operations and maintenance, we will be reaching detail of capital after that. Do you have a question, Mr. Picco?

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will ask some more questions when we get to the detail of capital on 11-16, but in the capital projections, it does not show me the monies the Minister is talking about. When I went to the Resource Committee, I was not informed of that either. This is something new to me. I can only go by what is in the main estimates book, which forecasts the capital expenditure of this government for the next few years. If it is not here in this book then I know a lot of things, I try to be informed, but I have missed this one. So, I accept Minister Kakfwi's explanation

and I will wait until we get to the next page, Mr. Steen, and have some fun in that area. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Was there a question in there?

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

No, it was a compliment to the Minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Total operations and maintenance, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the areas wildlife, fisheries and renewable resources as it was once called, what is the distribution of biologists within each region?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, we have indicated in our re-organization where there was a previous concentration of biologists at the headquarters level, we have tried as much as possible to take those positions and allocate them to regional operations. We shall try to put together the exact allocation of those positions in each region and give that to you in a few minutes. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Total operations and maintenance, $50,133,000. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to the area of tourism, there are a lot of concerns raised by committee in relation to the cuts that have been taken, especially in regards to the Northwest Territories tourism associations. In light of the amount of tourism potential we do have in the north and also the amount of resources it brings to communities, especially in the summer, especially areas that are hit economically where they do not have the potential of mines, or oil and gas fields, the tourism area is one area we feel where there is a real need for this government to spend more resources and also develop our tourism markets. Also, to provide the long term benefit to the NWT by marketing the Northwest Territories globally through tourism. I would like to ask the Minister in this area, what is the government doing to improve that particular area?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, we have indicated earlier we are working on two tourism bodies, Nunavut Tourism Association and the Western Arctic Tourism Group. We are providing them with the funding and support necessary so they can put together a plan on how to promote the respective areas to increase tourism over the next few years. The resources we have allocated are sufficient and relative to the other areas where we have allocated resources. This is the way we decided to proceed at this time. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the area of tourism, one of the concerns that have come from the tourism association is the amount of cuts they have taken in regards to the operation and maintenance of that area of responsibility, that was given to these associations to allow the public to take a more active role in tourism and marketing of tourism. Yet the resources they have to operate and maintain has been cut drastically, in regards to them having the ability to market properly and also to maintain and operate an organization so they can do their job. In that particular area, the committee felt there is a need for funding, especially when we are investing in the north with the tourism future that we have. I would like to ask the Minister exactly what is the amount of marketing dollars they have received to date?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Because the government had faced cut backs in the funding we provide to outside agencies, even our own sectors in our department have reflected that as well, we have asked these tourism associations who are made up of business people and entrepreneurs if they could find some creative way to get better return on the monies we have allocated for these activities. These jobs, I think, have taken on that challenge. We have asked them to look at it in terms of partnership funding. We want these businesses, associations, outfitters to provide membership fees to these associations so there is some sense of commitment and investment and ownership by them that would increase the amount available to them. At this time, the core funding amount we have allocated within the budget for tourism associations is about $467,000. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. For the record, we are on resource management and economic development. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make a motion.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Proceed with the motion.

Committee Motion 27-13(4): Recommendation To Return Funding For The NWT Arctic Tourism Association To Historical Levels
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development take every effort to return funding for the Northwest Territories Arctic Tourism Association to its historical levels.

Committee Motion 27-13(4): Recommendation To Return Funding For The NWT Arctic Tourism Association To Historical Levels
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is distributed to Members and translated into the appropriate language. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour? Thank you. I am reminded again, once the motion is called and the question is called, you should know by now we do not generally go back to debate the motion. Mr. Ootes.

Committee Motion 27-13(4): Recommendation To Return Funding For The NWT Arctic Tourism Association To Historical Levels
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, I did have my hand up, but you were not looking my way. May I speak to it now, Mr. Chairman?