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Question 62-13(5): Post-budget Meetings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Deputy Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I would start off by congratulating the Finance Minister for an excellent job in putting the budget together, and for the first time since we began deliberating, some of the best news that the government has been able to come up with and announcing things like job creation to the tune of 1,000 new jobs, over 1,000 new houses, a balanced budget, et cetera, and the list goes on and on, help for the poor, more money for social assistance, food baskets, et cetera.

I would add that the Finance Minister and his staff have been working literally day and night over the last few weeks putting this together. Although other Members of the Legislative Assembly chose not to recognize that this afternoon, the government certainly does. Part of the approach in the new budget is that the government's new incentives and initiatives will require a good deal of monies from the private sector because a lot of the principals are to lever money from companies, from banks, et cetera to get a lot of these projects off the ground. They are significant amounts of dollars, over the $100 million range. What we had in the audience today were some of the members of the banking community, of the businesses that will be partners with government in delivering all this good news. The banking community and others were asked by the Finance Minister to give some initial reaction today on their first impressions of some of these initiatives, and this is part of the consultation of this discussion that needs to occur to make sure that these initiatives are realized and that things forge ahead. I did not mention shrimp and so forth. The mention of shrimp and so forth, I did not see any. They might have some left over that the Ordinary Members had yesterday over in the Member's lounge, but...

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Some Hon. Members

Bravo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Once again, I think the Minister of Finance has done an excellent job.

--Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not think anybody will argue with that fine and somewhat extensive preamble about the budget and the work done by the Finance Minister and his people. It is a highly symbolic issue here. As the discussion goes on, we talk about a two- tiered reception. When we made these cuts as a government, we asked all the people to share the burden. When it comes time to move on, the bankers and certain people eat shrimp and smoked char, and the people who had to live with all the cuts and work through the process are forced to eat crackers and kool aid. I do not think that message is the right one that you are trying to send on such a long day as this. Would not the Deputy Premier agree that it is not the message we are trying to send to the people of the north? We are going to prosper together. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. I did not hear a question there, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is, is this event today symbolic of the way that we intend to move forward where there will be two different kinds of prospering in the north, and is that the message we are sending to the many people we invited here today? A lot of the people who worked hard and lived with the cuts, are we sending a message that there is a two-tiered approach to the way we are going to move forward in prosperity? There was not one when we had the cuts. We all had to live with it together.

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Some Hon. Members

Shame, shame.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I refer the technical part of the answer to the Minister of Finance, I would like to make it clear again that this is not a two-tiered approach. What we have is a partnership arrangement where the government is finally dealing with a balanced budget after many, many sacrifices and cooperation between the Cabinet, other Members of the Legislative Assembly, our staff and all people of the Northwest Territories and that we need to foster and encourage these partnerships. The bankers and businessmen are one but also a significant partner, so are others in the Northwest Territories. If it is okay with you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to refer the rest of the answer to Mr. Todd.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well, Mr. Speaker, I hope the bankers are not listening. Quite frankly, after working two years with my colleague, it is disappointing that is what it has amounted to when we come forward and worked hard to put together a budget that is balanced, creative and proactive. There is no two tiered system here. All I am trying to do is bring in the banks who are going to lend the monies to make sure that we get the infrastructure requirements in our communities, and frankly, I am embarrassed at the level of conversation that is going on here right now. Embarrassed. I do not find it amusing one bit.

What we have been providing the banks with for the last two days are technical briefings on where we are going with respect to the new initiatives to reassure them that this government has balanced its budget and has got its fiscal house in order and suddenly talking about shrimps and two-tiered system does nothing to lend credibility to what we are doing here today. It is not a two-tiered system. It was a private discussion between the bankers, what I was introducing, and some of the business community who can speak and enhance and support the policies that we are bringing forward to move us into the new millennium. That is what all this was. If I have offended my colleagues on the other side because they did not get shrimp like they did yesterday, I apologize. We have spent weeks trying to convince bankers that we know what we are doing. I spent weeks trying to ask them to come to the north so they can understand what is going on. We are taking them to BHP tomorrow to show them the kind of magnitude of the projects going on in this country, that it has a future. It is not a two-tiered system. It is not an issue about shrimp. This is an issue about credibility. This is an issue about investment money. This is an issue about encouraging bankers to open their purses and give it to the people that we need to put the infrastructure in place.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Then I guess we are embarrassed but for different reasons. I am embarrassed that this government would think that it could treat people differently, that ordinary people, not Ordinary MLAs, who we invited to our reception, be treated differently. I am not denying the hard work and the value of this budget, but I think it is very symbolic. So it is unfortunate that we all feel joint embarrassment for the wrong reasons. We have worked very hard and we have asked the people of the north, every one of them, to tighten their belts, take pay cuts, get programs cut, lose benefits. This is a symbolic issue. We are worried about packaging and the message we are sending we have to work...

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Miltenberger, I would like to remind Members that you are allowed the preamble at the beginning of your questions, and then once the question is responded to, then you can ask a supplementary regarding the response. I will remind the Members that I will start applying that rule in the House. Too many times, Members are continuously going on without asking questions at preamble for every time you make a supplementary. It is not allowed. Members should know that. Mr. Miltenberger, your supplementary.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Supplementary question to the Deputy Premier, this is not a technical question, Mr. Speaker. Are not the people, the ordinary people of the Northwest Territories entitled to the same kind of consideration as the bankers and the money men? Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The residents of the Northwest Territories are the people that we serve, and we do not forget that. The significant and important and positive initiatives that the Minister of Finance announced today are directed towards the people of the Northwest Territories, the public. In order to secure those initiatives and to make sure we have the money to pay for them, to lever the money, we require the cooperation and, in some cases, the lending of these monies from the bankers that the Minister of Finance met with today.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 63-13(5): Assistance To Former Grollier Hall Students
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services. Mr. Speaker, before I returned back to Yellowknife for this session, in the community of Inuvik, a meeting was held by a group concerned with the Grollier Hall residential school. I am wondering if the Minister received any information from the meeting that was held and some of the concerns raised. I would like to know if the Minister of Health has received anything and what kind of response that this government will have to try and work with the group that is trying to help out surviving students of Grollier Hall. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand that the meeting organized by the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services' Board was held last week. Representatives of the victims' group were there, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation and the GNWT through Department of Health and Social Services and the Department of Justice. Also the federal government through Department of Indian and Northern Affairs had representation. The Roman Catholic Church and, of course, the regional health and social services' board as I indicated. I do not have the outcome of discussions of the meeting at hand with me. I know, from a GNWT perspective, ourselves, the Department of Justice and Department of Education, Culture and Employment are working together in trying to develop some support mechanisms to provide the necessary support for the victims, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister inform us if this government, although they are working on working together with a number of other departments; do we have a policy or does the Department of Health and Social Services have a policy to deal with such things as residential school, things that have happened? It is not the first in the history of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.