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Further Return To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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John Todd Keewatin Central

That is correct, Mr. Speaker. I should say that the uptake, of course, would really determine to some extent, to what degree we will be investing in P3 this year and the other years. I used the $100 million as a bench mark, if you want, for the maximum exposure at this time. We are working extremely hard right now, to get the right kind of fiscal, accurate figures to reassure not only this House, myself, as the Finance Minister, my colleagues that this is not going to lead us down the path to greater fiscal expenditures that we cannot afford in the future. I am very much aware how the question is being asked by a number of groups on the affordability. I hope to demonstrate in the not too distant future that the checks and balances will be there. Basically, the checks and balances will fundamentally be there anyway with respect to the House and committees because everything has to come back down once it goes through the FMB and there will be an opportunity for direct participation by all Members of this House on any P3 projects that may be coming forward. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate whether it was necessary or is necessary to have the concurrence of the Interim Commissioner for these longer term commitments? Has that been obtained? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I think that is a valid question and there is no question that any fiscal expenditures above and beyond April 1, 1999 will have to be signed off somewhere with the Interim Commissioner. Two things, as I said in my speech earlier today, one of the main things we have been working on with the Interim Commissioner right now is a protocol agreement on the contractual arrangements this government has that go beyond 1999. The banking world wants to know if you are building a building and you have a 15-year lease and it is renewed in 1998 and goes onto the year 2010 or something, there has to be some commitment there on behalf of the future government. The Interim Commissioner has the mandate responsibility to do that. We are working with him. We are close to an arrangement. I am confident we will reach it soon. I am optimistic that in my discussions with Mr. Anawak that he will see the merit in the new initiatives that we are bringing forward. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 73-13(5): Public/private Partnership Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.

Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for Minister Kakfwi, Minister of RWED, in regard to diamonds. Sometime ago the territorial government initiated meetings with the federal Minister of Finance and the federal Minister of DIAND. The results of those meetings were the formation of a diamond task force. I wonder if the Minister could bring us up-to-date as to what is happening on the part of that task force in regard to advancing a diamond sorting, valuating facility here in Yellowknife? Thank you.

Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the task force had a meeting planned for the latter part of, I believe January 9th in Ottawa, which is the time the ice storm had just occurred in the Ottawa/Montreal area. Consequently, the members of the task force, I believe, were not able to convene a meeting. In any case, we have expressed our disappointment with the federal Ministers because the task force has had at least from the federal side, the federal officials who were assigned to this task force appeared to have had their full brakes on as far as trying to expedite any business that should have taken place by the task force. We had originally agreed with Minister Martin, Minister Jane Stewart, to have an interim report to Ministers, that is Minister Todd and myself, to Minister Martin and Stewart by the middle of December, an initial report from this task force. Unfortunately, some of the federal officials decided that it was not a high priority and found reasons to reschedule meetings and basically slowed down any attempts to convene with some quick successive meetings to carry on the business that the task force was set up to do. It has been disappointing. We had hoped that some value will come of the task force and the reasons that we originally asked for it to be set up. The deputy minister, Joe Handley, is on tour with the Premier right now in South America and will be back on Saturday. I expect to meet with him to discuss the merits of continuing with this task force and exactly how much resources we should put to it, considering that federal members of the task force have indicated they thought an interim report of the task force was not possible at least until mid-March at the earliest. Thank you.

Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Ministers had an opportunity to meet with the Minister of Northern Affairs, yesterday, and I wonder if the Minister was able to put forward to the Minister, the disappointment of this government in the task force if they emphasized the need to address this issue on an urgent basis? Time is shooting away on us and we have to address this very, very quickly. I wonder if the Minister could tell us whether he was able to be emphatic with the Minister about this issue? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Cabinet met with Minister Jane Stewart, yesterday morning. We had a very brief time. Diamonds, specifically was not on the agenda. We used up the time available to us to speak about the Royal Commission report, the issue of division, the difficulties and some of the issues outstanding in regard to division. I spoke generically about the importance of the mining industry, the mining sector to the economy of the north and to Yellowknife, in particular. I suggested to her that as Minister responsible for Minerals, Lands and Waters in the Northwest Territories that she has a direct obligation to do something specifically, to assist existing operating mines to continue to operate during what we hope is a short-term drop in the price of gold. We did not engage in the issue of diamonds since it is contentious and the federal government has yet to make decisions. Actually, nothing much has changed since the last couple of months and so we have decided not to raise the issue since it would not be of any immediate consequence to us. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Yellowknife Diamond Task Force had difficulty arranging a meeting with the Minister on this particular subject. They encountered extreme difficulties in trying to arrange some time with her. I am not sure whether they succeeded. This is an important issue to us all here in the north. She is in charge of resource development. Would the Minister tells us if he and his counterparts will seek another meeting with his federal counterparts to address this important issue? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, it is our intention to continue working as much as we can with the federal government and with BHP to ensure that two things happen. One, a valuation facility, a sorting facility be located off-site in one of the communities in the Northwest Territories. We hope to resolve that one way or the other and get a clear definitive answer within the next month. Secondly, we have indicated that we would like to be assured that the private sector should have assurances that they can have access to rough diamonds here in the Northwest Territories which give us an opportunity to look at and explore the options of developing diamond cutting and the manufacturing industry. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It seems that there is a tremendously good cooperative process between the Minister and industry. I wonder if he could tell us, and he mentioned that he hopes to have some indication of what will happen by month end, I believe, could he tell us if he will address this whole issue with the Minister of Northern Affairs in the next short while, say the next 60 days? Because there is another diamond mine coming on stream, we need to address this issue, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, all the different options for continued lobbying and action will be considered by this government. The Premier will be back, as I say, on Saturday. It is my intention to request that Cabinet consider a course of action over the next month or so that should conclude our efforts of over the last two years to come up with some definite answers to the two objectives that I outlined earlier. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
Question 74-13(5): Diamond Task Force Update
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Question 75-13(5): Transparency In Public/private Partnerships
Item 7: Oral Questions

January 21st, 1998

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are on the P3, public partnership. Earlier Mr. Todd spoke about transparency and in his budget address he said that over the next two years $100 million each year could be dedicated to the Public Partnership Agreement under the P3. Someone has to pay for that $200 million that would be in the form of lease payments over 20 years or whatever. It is not free money. On this transparent process, I wonder what type of regulations will be in place so that the perception, as it were, of the public, that it is a clear process. In the transparency process would we be using the current capital five-year projections plan? Like in my community where we have turned down recreation complexes and that, because there was no money, would the community expect those types of things to be in this P3 Public Partnership Program? I am asking the Minister about transparency and how will the projects be picked, how will they come forward? Will it be in that five-year capital planning process that we have now? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, we are aware it will cost us money. That is understood. Secondly, my honourable colleague is correct that we will use the process that is currently in place, the five year capital plan. That is currently being re-examined right now. I would like to assure him that the whole process will be undertaken and he will have full opportunity to participate as a member of the committees. Thank you.