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Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the honourable Mr. Antoine, Minister of DPW, in regard to the Lahm Ridge Tower Building lease. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister tell me if the lease document that was used for the original lease was, in fact, a standard DPW lease document?

Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for Public Works and Services, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it is. Thank you.

Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen.

Supplementary To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, would the Minister then table the standard lease document if the terms to renew on the standard lease document are similar to the ones of the original lease?

Supplementary To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will table a standard document with the provisions that are in there. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Steen.

Supplementary To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I am trying to get at here is rather than table the actual lease which might be confidential, could the Minister table a standard lease document if, in fact, the standard lease document terms of renewal of the lease are similar to the ones

that were on the original lease of Lahm Ridge Tower Building?

Supplementary To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you. Yes.

Further Return To Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Question 133-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Finance Minister's Budget Address, he talked about the child tax credit. Mr. Speaker, we hear in this House about child poverty, about lack of housing and about the lack of food. I could not agree more than I did with the reply to the Budget Address that Mr. Steen put forward with respect to how we are going to ensure this child tax benefit actually gets to the children that we are trying to help. It is going to go to the parents, we know that. My question is to the Minister of Finance. If this is a federal program, is it too late to use these resources in some other fashion to make certain that the children are the direct beneficiaries of these resources? Thank you.

Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For clarity purposes, of course, it is a federal/territorial joint tax credit because we include an additional $2 million, I believe, into that budget. I have some differences with my colleagues about imposing upon parents, the manner in which they should spend a tax benefit that is rightfully theirs because this government has brought in a budget that improves the right for children. I would have some difficulties, quite frankly, imposing the kind of conditions that my colleague has suggested earlier in the last two days. Thank you.

Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The kinds of things suggested in Mr. Steen's remarks and what I had thought of previously when I heard of this tax credit were things like a breakfast program, or a hot meal program in the schools or programs whereby the children are the absolute direct beneficiaries of the program as opposed to going to the parents. Now, I understand if you have a differing philosophy on that, but the fact remains true that children are living in poverty, but it is not always necessary for lack of funds. What I am asking is, is there any provision where any of this money could be redirected into other programs that we would be more assured would directly benefit the children of the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
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John Todd Keewatin Central

No, Mr. Speaker. The position of myself and my colleagues is that the budget we initially announced in the manner which we see it being disbursed, we would not, at this time, see changing that. I am advised by my colleagues that there are programs out there like Brighter Futures, et cetera, that provide some of the services that my honourable colleagues are asking today and my honourable colleague, Mr. Steen, asked earlier. I would have to say at this time that I would not see us making any major adjustments to this policy and to the manner in which we distribute the money to the children and to the parents. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Then I would ask the Minister, what about other funds that may be available to provide education? If parents are going to receive more money and have more family income to spend, I think there is a need in the Northwest Territories for education with respect to parenting, providing nutritional foods, a lot of different areas that would benefit children. Are there any other resources available for that type of thing? So, the parents get more money, but now can we assist them in spending it more wisely? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
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John Todd Keewatin Central

The Department of Finance certainly is not about to determine how parents should spend their monies given through a tax credit. I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. My understanding from talking with some of my colleagues is that there are other educational social programs available to assist parents. Not all parents are incapable of looking after their children. There may be a minority. I do not know. I am really not one to judge how parents spend their money. Our position is that we provide a tax benefit to those who are less fortunate, who desperately need it. The approach, I believe, we should take - and maybe it is a personal one, but it is something I believe - is that ultimately the responsibility for people's children lie with the parents. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will save the debate with the Minister of Finance for how people take care of their children for another day. There are all kinds of indicators in our northern society that children are suffering and need more support and if this government has the ability to provide that, either directly to them or through their parents

and through education programs, then I would support it. I will save that debate for another day. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Question 134-13(5): Child Tax Benefit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.