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Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 9-13(6)
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The Chair John Ningark

There was a call for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Roland, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Morin, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Rabesca. Thank you.

Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 9-13(6)
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The Chair John Ningark

All those opposed, please rise.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Ootes, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Henry, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Steen.

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The Chair John Ningark

All those abstaining, please rise.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Picco, Mr. O'Brien.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, colleagues. Here is the record for the motion to amend the original motion. For, six. Against, seven. Abstentions, two. The amendment is defeated.

Going back to the original initial motion, do you want to move a motion to read the motion again or do you want to vote now? There was a call for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please stand.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Morin, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 9-13(6)
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. All those opposed, please stand.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Ootes, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Henry, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Steen.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. All those abstaining, please stand.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Picco, Mr. O'Brien.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, colleagues. I am advised to call the abstentions again.

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Clerk Of Committees Mr. Inch

Mr. Picco, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Antoine.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Here are the records of the votes to the original motion. For, five. Against, seven. Abstentions, three. The motion is defeated. Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I move a motion to report progress.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, there is a motion to report progress and the motion is not, I repeat, not debatable. All those in favour, signify. All those in favour? Point of order. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I believe we have a motion to sit here until we conclude this item.

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The Chair John Ningark

Could we have order here, please? Could we have order, please? I am advised that the motion to report progress is always in order and it takes precedence in this Assembly. All those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? The motion is defeated. We shall continue on with the item on the table. Point of order, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, although we have not said it explicitly, we have concluded discussion on this item. The item being discussed before the committee was a report that recommended two additional seats for Yellowknife. We entertained that motion, that motion was defeated. We subsequently have dealt with two additional motions, all of which are defeated. It is very clear, although not explicit, that the status quo is that we have concluded what will be our response to the report of the commission. Therefore, I suggest that the item has been concluded and we should adjourn. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I have not called that the item at hand is concluded and I have not had any directions from the membership to agree that the item at hand is concluded, so it has not been concluded. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in fact, there were other recommendations contained in the Electoral Boundaries Commission Report which have not been dealt with by way of motion here today. One of those recommendations included the removal of Enterprise from the Hay River riding and moved into the Deh Cho riding. Mr. Chairman, I am not sure how to proceed with this because, again, this would constitute with dealing with the information gathered by the Electoral Boundaries Commission in isolation of any other kinds of changes. I have questions arising from that. I have indicated publicly that if Enterprise wants to be moved into the Deh Cho, as the representative for that riding I have no objection to that. I understand the reasoning and so on. There are other questions surrounding how this would be dealt with as an isolated change. There could be issues related to how many people attended in Enterprise and whether or not they have been adequately consulted and whether this is a majority position of that community or not. I do not know the answer to that right now. The other thing I do not know is what it would cost to redraw the electoral boundaries to make this one change which is, in fact, for 86 constituents.

I do not know what is involved in terms of redrawing voters' lists, maps, all those sorts of things. I would like to know if this can be brought back to the House as a formal motion after some questions have been looked into with respect to the wishes of the community and the costs associated with doing this in isolation of any other changes to the electoral map? That matter has not been dealt with. That is my question. I do not know who can answer that question, but can this be dealt with as a separate motion, other than within the discussion that is being held here today?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I will recognize legal counsel for some response to the honourable Mrs. Groenewegen. Ms. MacPherson.

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Law Clerk Ms. Macpherson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, any Member could always move a motion in formal session of the House to accomplish a boundary change. That would then, of course, have to be accompanied by the appropriate legislation in the Legislative Assembly and the Executive Council Act, but the short answer is, yes, you could move a motion in formal session of the House.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.