This is page numbers 585 - 623 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was nunavut.

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Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

December 7th, 1998

Page 585

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Ms. Thompson. Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. On December 17th , the Attagoyuk Ilisavik School will open in the community of Pangnirtung. This opening marks the result of an impressive cooperation between the community, staff of the Baffin Divisional Education Council, the Government of the Northwest Territories and several northern contractors.

As this House knows, Mr. Speaker, the school in Pangnirtung was lost in a tragic fire during the winter of 1996. The facility, which was being renovated at the time, was completely gutted. While the loss was devastating, quick thinking in the community resulted in very little disruption to the school program. Displaced students were accommodated in several locations, including Nunavut Arctic College's Community Learning Centre. Schooling continued with strong support from the Baffin Divisional Education Council and other schools throughout the Baffin region.

To speed the reconstruction of the school, the community district education authority decided to use the school design adopted from a similar-sized facility that will soon be completed in Pond Inlet. The Pangnirtung school will accommodate 385 students. It is important to note that it includes a large gymnasium that will provide excellent space for community activities. This enlarged gym was made possible because the Hamlet of Pangnirtung paid for the space in excess of Education, Culture and Employment standards.

The new school has also taken an innovative approach to designing space for career and technology studies. These rooms will be at the front of the school and visible to students and the community.

Capital projects such as this are important to ensure that students across the north have a suitable environment in which to learn. This year, approximately 25 projects are under way to renovate or construct new schools. As well, nine college facilities are under development.

In closing, I would like to thank all those involved in the Pangnirtung school project. Close working relationships and solid commitment have provided, with the resources available, the best possible facility for Pangnirtung residents.

Congratulations to Pangnirtung and the students of Attagoyuk Ilisavik School. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson.

Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, on November 12th and 13th, I attended the Conference of Ministers Responsible for Consumer Affairs, which was held on Prince Edward Island.

Consumer Affairs Ministers recognize the importance of working together to better inform consumers about telemarketing fraud. More importantly, the Ministers agreed that there was a need to help enforcement agencies crack down on cross-border fraud and scams.

At our meeting, all Ministers agreed to sign the Cooperative Enforcement Agreement on Consumer Related Measures. In addition, CANSHARE, an information network, was launched.

Together, these initiatives will increase sharing of information on consumer protection issues. They will allow faster and better national tracking of deceptive telemarketing and other kinds of scams.

Mr. Speaker, a public education campaign will be launched in January 1999, which has been declared the International Year of Older Persons. The campaign is designed to inform all consumers, including senior citizens who are often a target of these scams.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, Ministers have agreed to harmonize the rules governing the cost of credit information to consumers. This will strengthen efforts to have one set of rules in place by the year 2000 for disclosure of information about the cost of credit by financial institutions and automobile leasing firms. With these new rules, consumers will have a legal right to obtain more information from businesses when they are borrowing money or leasing a car.

Mr. Speaker, our efforts in educating northern consumers and protecting senior citizens from telemarketing and consumer fraud is vital. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs recognizes this important role and is taking the necessary steps to ensure adequate protection of consumers across the north.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers statements. Mr. Ng.

Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Mr. Speaker, as Members may be aware, social union negotiations became a very high profile issue in the Quebec election campaign. Now, with the Quebec election behind us, all participating governments are eager to successfully conclude these negotiations.

The primary objective of a new social union arrangement is to provide for more effective and efficient delivery of social programs to all Canadians. These negotiations will shape how governments in this country relate to one another and to all Canadians.

In recent years, Mr. Speaker, the GNWT has come to be recognized as a legitimate participant in a variety of intergovernmental forums where issues of national significance are considered by federal and provincial governments.

Discussions about social policy reform began at the 1995 Annual Premiers Conference in St. John's, Newfoundland. Since that time, this government has been working toward a strong national partnership which would oversee the more effective and sustained delivery of social programs and services to all Canadians.

With the establishment of Nunavut and with Aboriginal self-government agreements, the makeup of the Northwest Territories will change forever. However, all northern governments will continue to be faced with the realities of the north.

Our government's goal in these negotiations, Mr. Speaker, is to ensure that these realities are reflected in the social union framework for the nation.

Discussions around the social union framework cannot separate responsibility for the provision of social programs and services and the fiscal arrangements that provide the necessary capacity for governments to provide comparable services to all Canadians.

We all know, Mr. Speaker, that delivering social programs and services in the Northwest Territories is more expensive than in southern Canada. We know that we must face the challenge of delivering these programs and services in a high cost part of Canada where access is a major factor in providing comparable and affordable services.

For this government to be successful in delivering social programs and services to territorial residents, the outcome of social union discussions must recognize that we have responsibilities equal to those of the provinces. The ongoing challenge for us is to maintain access to social programs and services that are taken for granted in most provinces.

The GNWT is committed to these objectives. We will continue to be active participants in the negotiation process that will hopefully reach a successful conclusion in the coming months.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I wish to speak again about NorthwesTel, the second part of my statement that I wanted to speak to on this particular issue.

As I indicated, we had lunch with Mr. Boorman, the President, yesterday and he gave us a broad overview of some of the factors affecting NorthwesTel and its ability to be a viable appropriation. On the other half of that equation, while we have to be sympathetic to a certain extent to NorthwesTel, we have to recognize that the communities, as well, have strong concerns about the level of service and whether it will, in fact, be affordable.

Mr. Speaker, NorthwesTel is aware of that concern, if not from me, from many others that they have heard those concerns from. They recognize and they have been told repeatedly that they have to do a better job in terms of marketing and responding to people and community concerns.

Mr. Boorman indicated the fact that they intend to go out to the communities and start trying to, in fact, address that shortcoming. Mr. Speaker, I think we have to see our relationship with NorthwesTel as something of a partnership that requires a certain amount of goodwill by both parties. That has to be based, of course, on both parties having all the facts and being aware of all the figures to ensure that, in fact, we are not subsidizing a corporation.

CRTC, I think will be, I would hope, looking at those factors when NorthwesTel approaches them on these issues of concern. Mr. Speaker, the people of the north and NorthwesTel have a vested interest in a strong, affordable telecommunication system that links all of our communities together and to the world. I would encourage NorthwesTel as they come to us looking for support to ensure that their corporate house is in order as well and that they are going to be able to address in a reasonable, affordable way, the concerns of the people of the communities of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in my comments concerning Document 246 I challenged each Member who signed that document to provide an explanation of their involvement. Each of them did that.

The Speaker

I anticipated that Members would make reference to the conflict of interest issue that was concluded yesterday. For that reason, we have come up with some rulings that address the process that we had yesterday. In Beauchesne's, it states that a Member may not speak again or reflect upon any determination of the House unless intending to conclude with a motion for rescinding it. It is a wholesome restraint upon Members that they cannot revive a debate already concluded, and it would be little use in preventing the same question from being ordered twice in the same session. Without being offered, its merit might be discussed again and again. I would caution the Members. The matter of the conflict of interest issue has been concluded and for anybody that wishes to bring it up. I would have to make a ruling on whether or not it is appropriate to bring it up again. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know whether it is appropriate then to conclude my Member's statement. It was in conclusion to the transactions in the House yesterday. If you do not feel it is appropriate, I am sorry. I did ask permission before I stood to make this speech today. Thank you.

The Speaker

No, if it is in response to what happened yesterday the matter is concluded, Mrs. Groenewegen. Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas.

Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in 1997, the final report of the Mackenzie Basin Impact Study concluded that the plant and animal life, lakes and rivers, forest industry and communities across the north will face drastic changes in upcoming years if steps are not taken to reduce the effects of global warming. The negative effects of the greenhouse effect are more evident where temperatures have been rising. For example, frozen soil or permafrost is starting to melt or weaken in many areas. As a result the surface becomes softer and if there is infrastructure such as roads or buildings on top of it, the consequences can be very real. Roads may collapse, buildings and homes will start to sink. As we all are aware, barges are a cost-effective form of resupply that may be compromised. The number of forest fires in the west may most likely increase and drought may also result from low lake levels. This is just the beginning.

With significant changes in the weather in such a short period, the Government of the Northwest Territories and Nunavut need to take preventative and coordinated action at national and international levels to reduce the potential consequences arising from global warming. Unfortunately, according to the aforementioned report, initiatives at the local level may most likely compromise little.

Mr. Speaker, there is a need to make an effective and concentrated effort by both territorial governments and the federal government to bring attention to this impact and important issues that affect all of us. Increased attention and efforts at all levels is needed for the effective strategy to stem the damage from global warming. Mr. Speaker, this statement I make today also reflects the studies that have been done in the high Arctic in my riding, which are affecting the global warming, and the studies will be used to find out if the global warming is really happening. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am a little late in delivering this, but it is regarding the National Child Day poster contest that I sponsored in Inuvik for November 20th. In celebration of National Child Day, my office held a poster contest last month. The children were asked to draw a poster on what it is like to be a child growing up in Inuvik. The response was overwhelming and my constituency office received 74 entries. The children drew pictures of traditional activities like jigging for fish and caribou hunting. They also drew pictures of roller blading, playing hockey and being a part of the Brownies, playing soccer in the field and playing baseball, just to mention a few.

Miss Cassandra Kirk was a first place winner in the poster contest. Cassandra is a six year old student of Mrs. Ross' grade 1 class at Sir Alexander Mackenzie school in Inuvik. Her parents are Rob James Kirk and Valerie Norris-Kirk. She has two sisters, Jacqueline and Kimberly. Cassandra's best friend is Caitlin, one of the newer students in her class.

It took Cassandra two whole days to draw her poster. She drew the Sir Alexander Mackenzie School and its new playground equipment because she likes playing on the new playground. Cassandra enjoys skating, boating, camping and swimming, but her favourite activity is tobogganing. Cassandra drew the sun and the moon to show the summer sunlight and the winter's darkness. When asked what she prefers, Cassandra answered that she enjoys the winter more because she can do her favourite things like skating and tobogganing. She also drew fireworks from the annual Sunrise Festival in January. Cassandra and her family will be moving to Norman Wells in January and she is excited, but she will miss all of her friends in Inuvik. I would like to thank Cassandra and all of the children who entered the poster contest because each of the entries that were received were wonderful as we have many talented young artists in Inuvik. I would like also to thank the teachers at Sir Alexander Mackenzie School and the parents who encouraged their children to enter the poster contest. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to bring to Members attention the efforts and accomplishments of St. Patrick High School's program, Students Against Drinking and Driving, a program known as SADD. This program began in November, 1994, and back then they had 12 students as members. Today there are 67 active and dedicated members. Last year the group received an award for the most active SADD chapter in the western region. Since 1994, the St. Patrick High School SADD program has offered Yellowknife youth healthy alternatives in the form of overnighters, open gym nights, drive parties and educational community events. Members have made presentations to the Rotary Club of Yellowknife, Community of Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife City Council. In November they travelled to Norman Wells to give a presentation about the SADD program. They have also been active in activities such as the National Addiction Awareness Week, Arctic Winter Games, the Fire Department demonstrations and Candy Cane check stops. Each year members attend the Canadian Youth Against Impaired Driving conference, a national conference held annually in a major Canadian city.

It is important to note that not only do our youth benefit from activities organized by SADD, but the students actively involved in the group develop many leadership skills. St. Patrick's SADD program is also the founder of the 1998 Yellowknife Youth Leadership Awards banquet. They worked together with the Youth Volunteer Corps, Sir John Franklin's SADD program and participants of both high school student councils to organize the leadership awards event. I would like to acknowledge some of the key organizers of the SADD program. Angela Masongsong is the President and teacher advisors, Michelle Thoms and Renee Lamoreux. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past three years there have been several Members of this Legislative Assembly make statements and ask questions on the issue of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Fetal Alcohol Effect. Like myself, colleagues have attempted to raise awareness of this serious affliction, which has affected so many people in the north. Questions have been asked on what can be done to stop this affliction from continuing to spread throughout the population.

Today, Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring to the attention of this House and the public a very important presentation that is to take place this Thursday evening at 7:

30 pm in the auditorium of Northern United Place. On Thursday evening, the public will have an opportunity to hear a presentation and a panel discussion on the subject of FAS/FAE. This event has been arranged through members of the FAS community team, who receive funding from the City of Yellowknife to bring a specialist on FAS to the north to conduct workshops over a period of two days in Yellowknife, as well as to Fort Rae, Lutselk'e, Detah and N'dilo.

I would urge my fellow Members to take the time to attend this presentation on Thursday evening. We must learn all we can on the issue of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and assist in making progress in reducing that problem. As legislators, we are responsible and accountable to make a difference to the people that we serve. Perhaps this is one area we can look at to learn what we can, especially when we have such a significant opportunity to hear from a learned and respected professional on the subject. I urge all members of the public to come out and learn more on the subject. It affects us all whether directly or not. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker

Thank you. Members' statement. Mr. Steen.

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as you all know, a dramatic climate change is taking place in the north. This climatic change is known as global warming. The most noticeable effect of global warming is earlier breakups and late freeze-ups. In most cases, people tend to welcome the shorter winter period and longer and hotter summers.

There are also some negative aspects to changing weather patterns. In general, both humans and wildlife have to adjust to these changes. Migrating wildlife such as caribou and water fowl, sea mammals and fish must contend with and adjust to these climatic changes in order to complete their migration to and from the breeding grounds. For example, spring migrating caribou may find their routes to the camping grounds cut off by early breakup of rivers. In the fall their routes to the staging areas will be blocked by large bodies of open water. Although caribou are excellent swimmers, they tend to avoid swimming when the temperature hovers around the freezing mark. In particular, in the fall. Another example is spring char runs out of the rivers. Char are known to take advantage of the high water levels during breakup in order to reach the sea. As break-up in the rivers arrives earlier, so do the whales arrive sooner than in previous years. Reduced sea ice coverage in the Beaufort will have it's affect on polar bear movements as well.

Mr. Speaker, I think biologists will be very busy in the next few years if they want to record all of the effects of global warming on northern wildlife. Since 99 percent of the people in my riding depend on wildlife for their livelihood, they too must adjust their hunting cycles and strategies to coincide with the changing weather patterns. For example, reductions in snow coverage on land both in spring and fall have served to limit the use of snowmobiles. Where conditions permit, people have adjusted by employing the use of ATVs for a longer period of time. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Speaker

Thank you. The Member for Nunakput is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Steen, you have unanimous consent.