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Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The issue of financing programs for the Tl'oondih Healing Camp has been an issue right from day one in this House. It is regrettable that we cannot provide funding and programs for all groups and societies that want it when we have to set our priorities and try to meet the demands across the whole territories. It was not a pleasurable thing to have to eliminate the funding for the alcohol and drug centre for Delta House in Inuvik. It was not by choice. It was based on some of the restraints that we had to make some tough decisions. We, as I said, as a government, as a Minister, we do take motions in this House and motions from aboriginal groups. If we can accommodate them, we try to take that into consideration when we finalize and make decisions. However, you cannot accommodate every single one.

We have tried to work with the Tl'oondih group on numerous occasions and we have been able to support them. I believe as a department, as a government, we have gone out of our way to assist them in trying to provide some programming. Albeit, it is not on a regular, core funded basis as we have said before. It was never one of the government facilities, so it could not be expected to receive core funding from the government. From my recollection, after the last meeting my officials had with the Tl'oondih officials, there was some information that we had requested in respect to an independent evaluation that was done of the Tl'oondih Healing programs, I do not believe we ever received that. There were some discussions about them adopting some of the standards and guidelines that we have for alcohol and drug treatment centres. I do not believe the Tl'oondih Society agreed to those terms. There has not been a lot of progress made in that area, Madam Chairperson. Having said that, there are still opportunities for them. I mentioned to the honourable Member in meetings with himself and Mr. Alexi that I believe there are going to be some significant opportunities through some of the healing programs with DIAND funding in response to the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. The amount and the mechanism for distribution have not been resolved yet, but there certainly are going to be some accessible to the Northwest Territories. There is the Strategic Initiatives Fund we have for our boards, the partners. They can choose to focus on mental health initiatives that the Tl'oondih Society could possibly be able to provide some services along those lines. There are opportunities out there, Madam Chairperson. I believe it is a matter of finding those opportunities and continuing to work toward a suitable solution. Thank you.

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. This is the end of another ten-minute segment. I will call the activity administration, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $29.538 million. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Just a question in regard to the grants and contributions, $4.772 million. Is $4 million an increase from the previous year? Could the Minister tell me why there has been such a large increase in that particular area of grants and contributions?

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, this is primarily the $4 million for the Strategic Initiative Funds that I announced in this House a week ago which has been spoken on a couple of times now. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Total operations and maintenance. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Could the Minister give me an idea of where this money is going to be spent? What happened last week? What we are doing now are two different things. I asked a question on exactly what is the $4 million going to be spent on?

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I just wanted to clarify. Does he mean in respect to the programs or does he mean in respect to the region, the breakdown and so on? If he could clarify that.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Krutko, could you provide clarification of which information you are looking for?

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. It would be nice to get $4 million in my region. I will settle for that.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Krutko, are you looking for specific information with respect to programming items or are you looking for program allocations per region?

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Program allocation by regions, in particular, mine.

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The 1998-99 allocations by board, and I can provide Members with a copy, if they wish: Baffin, $1,046,919; Keewatin, $673,491; Dogrib, $279,590; Yellowknife, $397,490; Inuvik, $606,648; Kitikmeot, $390,892; Hay River, $178,852; Deh Cho, $241,513; Fort Smith, $109,442; Fort Resolution, $48,026; Lutselk'e, $27,137. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. If the Minister could make a copy of that available to the deputy clerk, perhaps we could circulate it to the Members in the House? Total operations and maintenance, $29.538 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Health Insurance Programs, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $59,435 million. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I have one question in regard to non-insured health benefits, I believe, where my concern comes from, I was approached by some of my constituents who are band members, indicating they have been cut back on the kind of drugs they are allowed to be prescribed. Generic drugs versus possibly better quality brand name drugs. I was wondering if the Minister could speak to that particular issue and clarify how that works and what is happening? Thank you.

Committee Motion 21-13(5): To Establish Guidelines And Standards For The Operation Of All NWT Health Boards
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, I think I have spoken in the House previously on this issue. As you know, non-insured health benefits are a federal program, Medical Services Branch of Health and Welfare Canada. We administer it on their behalf but they have total say in what medication, what prescriptions and what services are eligible under this program. They have, on an ongoing basis, done reviews of their formulary list and although they say it is to be consistent, they usually end up reducing the amount of coverage as a result of shrinking the list or making cheaper or less costly alternatives available, Madam Chairperson. Thank you.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Is that down to the level where doctors or health centres are provided with lists of what can and cannot be prescribed?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, it is my understanding that all pharmacists and doctors are provided with lists of what is eligible. Thank you.