This is page numbers 505 - 534 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Dent, your point of privilege.

Point of Privilege

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I rise today on a point of privilege under Rule 20(1) to clarify a story by reporter Dave Miller that aired on CBC Radio earlier today.

It is my duty to note that the news item on the NWT Child Benefit contained a few misinterpretations and omissions of fact and subsequently left a wrong impression about how this program will work.

I would therefore like to take a moment to repeat the explanation of this program that the Finance Minister made in his Budget Address on January 22nd, and that I elaborated upon in a statement to this House on January 23rd.

First, and most importantly, I would like to point out that the news story focused exclusively on the reallocation of funds from the Income Support Program and omitted any reference to the fact the Government of the Northwest Territories is also contributing an additional $2 million to create this new program. That is $2 million in new money this government is investing as part of our commitment to put more money in the hands of low income families across the Northwest Territories.

Second, I would also like to clarify the reallocation of income support funds, and explain where that money is coming from. The NWT Child Benefit is designed to work hand and hand with the new National Child Benefit Program. Under the National Child Benefit, starting in July of this year, the federal government is committing $850 million across Canada to increase income support benefits for all low income working families with children. Because of this new federal funding, the territorial government is required to reduce its income support payments equal to the amount being invested by the federal government.

As a result there is an overall savings of about $2.2 million in the territorial government's income support budget. Under the terms of the National Child Benefit, we are committed to reinvesting those savings to programs and services for low income northerners. We chose to do this by implementing a NWT Child Benefit, and, as I have just reminded the House, by adding an extra $2 million to put more money into the hands of northern families.

The net result of the two programs is that all families in the Northwest Territories earning less than $42,000 will receive more money than they are receiving now.

--Applause

Finally, Mr. Speaker, the news report also stated that the government revealed this information yesterday. That is incorrect in that this is not new news. Detailed information on the National Child Benefit Program, and how it will work was made available to the public, and distributed widely, as early as September, 1997. As I have already stated, information on the NWT Child Benefit was included in the 1998-99 Budget Address, and I have made a statement and responded to questions in this House over the past two weeks.

In closing, I want to stress once again, this program is good news to the people of the Northwest Territories. All families earning a household income of less than $42,000 will receive some benefit from this program. As a result, in our estimate, we will affect 60 percent of the children in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the inaccurate report on the CBC this morning is, to say the least, disappointing as it does an injustice to this initiative and to the people of the Northwest Territories. I would encourage this reporter to, in future, double check his facts before reporting on issues raised in the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Your point of privilege has been noted. Also, your point of privilege should be based on response to the report on CBC. Just to remind the Member he might have gone on a bit too long.

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Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Todd.

John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as Minister responsible for the NWT Workers' Compensation Board, it is my pleasure today to table the board's corporate plan for 1998-2000.

The corporate plan provides a template which will guide the WCB's operations over the next three years. It represents the first step in a comprehensive planning process that translates into an action plan for management and personal objectives for staff.

Once again, this strategic plan is based on very solid footing. Responsible board management decisions and strong investments have allowed the NWT Workers' Compensation Board to make plans with the assurance of a fully funded accident fund.

This strong financial position enabled the WCB to reduce the average employer assessment rate in 1997, and again in 1998. Only three years ago, the average rate was $2.54 per $100 of assessable payroll. It fell, this year, to $1.87 per $100, the fourth lowest in Canada.

By the same token, this House approved a bill last fall to increase the year's maximum insurable remuneration (the YMIR) to $52,000. This will enable the WCB to fully compensate 75 percent of full-time workers who are injured in the Northwest Territories.

A supplementary pension increase of 1.82 percent was awarded to WCB pensioners last year and a further increase of 1.78 percent was approved for 1998. These adjustments will allow pensioners to keep up with increases in the cost of living.

Mr. Speaker, these are tangible measurements of the WCB's success. It follows that many of the strategic directions identified in past corporate plans are reaffirmed in this document.

Improving workplace safety will remain an important objective. The board will continue to focus its efforts on those industries and sectors with the highest accident rates and on promoting partnerships with workers and employers.

The WCB will also continue to strive for the highest possible level of service. Alternative methods of program delivery will be explored and existing initiatives will be evaluated to ensure they meet their stated objectives. Communication with stakeholders will continue to be a top priority.

Mr. Speaker, while this document reflects the WCB's current level of success, it also acknowledges that the WCB must respond to a rapidly changing environment.

In the next three years, the WCB will work hard to clarify its roles, responsibilities and accountability. The development of an effective board governance structure is crucial to ensuring that the financial, Legislative and program challenges facing the board are dealt with in a responsible manner.

Most importantly, the board must work to project the interests of its stakeholders during the creation of the two new territories. The WCB will co-operate with representatives of the west and Nunavut to facilitate a smooth transition. In the end result, I am sure all Members want a Workers' Compensation Board which will provide efficient and cost effective service in both jurisdictions after April 1, 1999.

Mr. Speaker, the WCB's Corporate Plan for 1998-2000 reflects the combined dedication of the board of directors, management and staff to meet the challenges of workers' compensation which will face us going into the twenty-first century. I encourage my colleagues to read this document. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my very great pleasure to rise today in this Assembly to congratulate the community of Gjoa Haven.

Last Friday I flew into the community, along with the MLA for Natilikmiot, Mr. John Ningark and senior staff of the Housing Corporation, to sign the agreement transferring the management and administration of the Social Housing Program from the Housing Corporation to the hamlet. Although my visit was brief, it was a pleasure because the whole community was proud to be taking a major step toward accepting more responsibility for how local housing decisions are made.

Mr. Speaker, I believe transferring more program authority for housing to the community level is the way to go in the future. It is an opportunity for communities to take greater control of their own destiny. I believe the mayor of Gjoa Haven, Michael Angottitauruq Sr. and council should be commended for their vision, as should the members and staff of the former Housing Association, because it is only through their cooperative approach that this transfer was possible.

As the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, I wish to sincerely thank the mayor, hamlet council and all of the community for being our hosts on Friday night. The community events, including the formal signing ceremony itself were very enjoyable and demonstrated the warmth and friendship of a community which was very proud to be taking greater control of their own lives. I hope that more communities will follow Gjoa Haven, and the example set by other communities, by working with the NWT Housing Corporation to assume greater local control over social housing.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I believe that we should reflect on the positive outcome of our community empowerment initiative. Through hard work and cooperation between the GNWT and communities, everyone will benefit from the investment in community self-reliance. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark.

John Ningark Natilikmiot

I will speak in my first language, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. (Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Goo Arlooktoo on behalf of Gjoa Haven for attending the social housing transfer signing ceremonies. We were made welcome by the people of Gjoa Haven and the people of Gjoa Haven were very happy to see the Minister in their community. The Minister indicated earlier what we did in Gjoa Haven, but I would like to thank Mr. Arlooktoo personally because he had asked me to accompany him to Gjoa Haven. I did not pay my airfare myself, Mr. Speaker, so I would like to thank the Minister.

--Laughter

I would like to thank Mr. Arlooktoo very much. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to raise an issue in relations to the WCB. I have a constituent who had his hand severely injured in a chain saw accident a number of years ago and he lost some fingers. He is a very hardworking gentleman who gets by on seasonal employment and part-time work. He has been after a lump sum payment for his disability. This is not argued or disagreed with by the WCB, and they, in fact on the face of it, say they have a policy for lump sum payouts. However, I have the policy here and the strings and conditions that they attach on lump sum payouts, I would consider to be draconian and onerous. Mr. Speaker, keeping in mind, that this gentleman is a part-time, seasonal worker, the WCB has seen fit to institute policies that require verifiable, independent stable source of income. If you do not have that, you have to show a stable employment history for five years. You have to be willing to put the lump sum payout towards a mortgage, a business venture or into a financial institution. In the most condescending fashion of all, the WCB insists that the applicant must be able to demonstrate the ability to manage his or her financial affairs. Mr. Speaker, I cannot believe that the WCB sees its mandate so far beyond looking after injured workers, where they would play the role of a social worker or a patronizing parent. In fact, this is his money. They are earning interest on his money. He has a legitimate request for a lump sum payout, yet this institution, which is rolling in money as we are told, will not even give this poor gentleman the money that he has earned his right to have. This is the 21st century we are going into. We are not going back into the 19th century. I would hope the Minister would look at this situation and this poor, hard-done-by gentleman who has asked very simply; give me the money that I earned that I paid into because of my injury so that I can put it to the use that I see fit. He does not need a corporation that is patronizing, intrusive and controlling withholding his money that is rightfully his. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Members' statements. Mr. O'Brien.

Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize a very special individual from my home community of Arviat. Thomas Ubluriak is known as Arviat's unofficial weatherman. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, the weather can be very unpredictable. It is almost as unpredictable as politics. Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that when Environment Canada has trouble forecasting the weather, they call on my friend Thomas for advice. Ninety-nine percent of the time, Thomas' weather predictions are accurate. He shares his knowledge of the weather without using any modern technology, without any formal training in this area. In addition to being Arviat's unofficial weatherman, Thomas also helps out at the Roman Catholic Church as one of the lay presiders. He is employed at the hamlet of Arviat as a water truck driver and his favourite pastime is dog mushing, a tradition which he continues to enjoy and promote. Mr. Speaker, hats off to Thomas Ubluriak.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I start, I would like to send greetings back to my wife and children. Mr. Speaker, I believe we have come a long way in the past two and a half years. One can say much has been accomplished. We can now focus on where we would like to go as a government. This alone sounds like good news. We should be sending a positive message out to the people we represent. After all, the people of the north have for far too long had to make due with much less than everybody has become accustomed to in the past two and a half years. It is time for some stability. It is time to mark out a path that we will travel in the upcoming months and year. Once a path has been marked out, we should follow it through. This after all Mr. Speaker, is how the people of this great country measure our accountability. They watch to see if what we say as a government is the same as what we do.

For two and a half years, we have been sending a message out to the people of the north that we must operate in a more efficient manner than was done before all this done to protect the future of our children and grandchildren. Many have accepted this, and many still question the route chosen but all watch to see if we practise what we preach. Mr. Speaker, I was chosen to represent the people of Inuvik and for two years much of the info and news I brought back to the people of Inuvik was not good news. For two years I was a messenger of this government and just when it looks like we have good news to share with the people I represent, they start asking, why did we go through all the reductions for the past two years.

Mr. Speaker, recent decisions of this government have been scrutinized by Members of this House and by the press. Now the people we represent are asking or questioning, why did we go through all the reductions and changes, just to see things go back to the old ways of doing business. Mr. Speaker, it is time to set the record straight, line-up all the cans and clear the air. In closing, Mr. Speaker, let not the seed of doubt grow like a weed for once it surfaces, it soon takes over all the good work of the gardener. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have raised the issue of non-insured health benefits before in this House. The NIHB has recently had some major changes. I understand that approximately 640 previous prescription and off-the-shelf drugs are no longer listed or covered under the NIHB. To my knowledge, there was no press release, communiqué or media advisory to let the general public know about this. Most people only found out about it when they went to their local pharmacy.

Mr. Speaker, was our territorial Department of Health advised of these changes prior to them coming into force? Was our government consulted on the changes? The federal government continues to download costs to the residents and we seemingly roll over on the issues. I am of the understanding that the changes made to prescriptions and drugs were because there are cheaper substitutes available in the marketplace. That may be, but are they available at our northern pharmacies here in the north?

For example, Mr. Speaker, if hypothetically hydroxyl is available and is under the NIHB, why would a pharmacy stock an equivalent drug, for example, amberflin. Our doctors probably prescribe the drugs or prescriptions that are readily available, not necessarily what is cheaper or a substitute. The approximate 640 over-the-counter and prescription drugs that are no longer under the NIHB should have been listed and supplied to our medical practitioners. Has that been done?

Mr. Speaker, I would hope that our Minister for Health will and has addressed these concerns with his federal counterpart and later today, I will be asking the Minister some questions on this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak about the Lahm Ridge Tower leasing arrangement that was recently made. Mr. Speaker, I have listened to many statements and questions made in this House and also had people call me and talk to me about this, a lot of them, because of things that have been raised in here I have taken the time to talk to several people that were involved and, Mr. Speaker, I am satisfied with the explanations that I have received. However, there still seems to be Members and the public who have questions, and of course, they deserve answers to those questions. There was a document tabled on January 28th which attempted to answer the questions that are being asked. The problem is that document was not detailed enough. I would urge the Minister responsible for this area to provide us with a more detailed explanation, a more detailed chronology of events with reasoning, more reasoning, as to why each step was taken. Mr. Speaker, there are a lot of questions that have been asked and a lot of answers given. People need to see all this in one document, explanation with dates and reasoning. Mr. Speaker, I believe this would help lay this issue to rest, and let us get on with proactive work such as dealing with the budget, and improving programs and services and making government more efficient and effective. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, the community of Broughton Island would like to have an access road to Old Broughton Island. An access road is important to the community. Old Broughton Island needs a more sheltered location from the community that allows for a longer boating season. This will allow the community to hunt and fish for a longer period of time as the water around Old Broughton Island is open longer than the water near the community. Hunting, trapping and fishing are important to the economy of Broughton Island. It is also the only form of income for many people. Hunting, trapping and fishing also puts food on the table for the community. If you do not have a skidoo or an ATV, it is difficult to get to Old Broughton Island, not everyone has a skidoo or an ATV. Mr. Speaker, the community of Broughton Island needs an access road to Old Broughton Island. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to talk about the fundraising campaign organized by the Stanton

Regional Hospital Foundation. Many of Stanton's patients come from smaller northern communities, people who in another area would have been sent south to Edmonton for treatment. The hospital was built ten years ago, and much of the equipment is old, rendered obsolete by technical advances. Although the GNWT continues to support some of the equipment needs, the needs far exceed available government funding. So the Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation is trying to raise $2 million to buy state of the art gear. This involves everything from a CAT scanner to a mammography unit.

Although buying this equipment is initially expensive, it will eventually reduce costs charged to our overall health care system. For example, many women are currently screened for breast cancer down south due to the frequent breakdowns of the obsolete mammography machine currently in use at Stanton. In 1996, over $600,000 was spent sending northerners to Edmonton for CAT scans. Investing in new equipment for Stanton will save hundreds of thousands of dollars for this government annually. The Foundation's fundraising campaign is now in full swing. Many people are dedicating their time to the foundation. In particular, I would like to single out Allan Hathaway, as chair of the foundation, and Cappy Elkin, chair of the campaign committee. There are many other northerners dedicated to this effort: Dr. Hassan Adam, Ric Bolivar, Darrell Donylynny, John Ferguson, Margaret Hawkins, Bill Graham, Joe Auge, Dennis Cleaver, Doug Witty, Gary Walsh, Gord Van Tighem and Greg Merrithew, just to name a few.

So I salute them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statement. Mr. Rabesca.