Thank you. I hope we will not be leading into a current pay equity dispute. I hope we are talking about this in general terms. Madam Minister.
Debates of Feb. 9th, 1998
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Committee Motion 9-13(5): To Ensure Regular Inspections Of Fire Safety Equipment And Fire Safety Training
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The Chair John Ningark
Committee Motion 9-13(5): To Ensure Regular Inspections Of Fire Safety Equipment And Fire Safety Training
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the Member was just making a comment. I do not know if there was a specific question, but I do agree with the principle that agreements have to be fair. I do agree with the Member. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 9-13(5): To Ensure Regular Inspections Of Fire Safety Equipment And Fire Safety Training
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Your time is up Mr. Krutko. Total operations and maintenance, $924,000. Mr. Miltenberger.
Committee Motion 10-13(5): To Approve The Estimates For Community Monitoring And Evaluation Activity, Maca
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move that total operations and maintenance estimates for the activity community monitoring and evaluation under the Department of Municipality and Community Affairs in the amount of $924,000 be approved.
Committee Motion 10-13(5): To Approve The Estimates For Community Monitoring And Evaluation Activity, Maca
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The Chair John Ningark
I am informed that copies of the motion will be printed and circulated. We will take a five-minute break.
--Break
Committee Motion 10-13(5): To Approve The Estimates For Community Monitoring And Evaluation Activity, Maca
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The Chair John Ningark
There is a motion moved by Mr. Miltenberger. I will read the motion. Written motion has been circulated already.
I move that the total operation and maintenance estimates for the activity community monitoring and evaluation under the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs in the amount of $924,000 be approved. In this motion, I am advised it is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried. We will move onto page 4-10, community monitoring and evaluation is approved. Move to page 4-11, community operations, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance is $10.756 million. Agreed?
Committee Motion 10-13(5): To Approve The Estimates For Community Monitoring And Evaluation Activity, Maca
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Krutko.
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Committee Motion 10-13(5): To Approve The Estimates For Community Monitoring And Evaluation Activity, Maca
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We are reviewing community operations, page 4-11. Thank you, Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With community operations, there are communities such as Aklavik who have been trying for many years to negotiate and take over different responsibilities. In light of those negotiations which have been going on for a number of years, the communities go into it with the idea that what they are taking on is something that has been in place for a while. Once they start the negotiations, the government changes the rules about how that particular item in a community is going to be taken over and there is inadequate funding in place to take over the specific project or the terms
and conditions are changed during those negotiations. Do these negotiations start off with some principles that are adhered to before those negotiations start?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Minister.
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not sure if this is under community operations or community empowerment. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the first sentence in community operations it clearly states at the end of the sentence, maintenance and empowerment of community governments to provide financial assistance. So it is part of that particular section when you are talking about community empowerment and the cost of operation and administration, for them to take on these responsibilities. So it is part of that portfolio.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Minister.
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What the Member is referring to was under monitoring and evaluation, what we just concluded. I will ask my deputy minister to give more information.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the community operations activity provides a number of support activities to communities. They are listed on 4-11. With respect to the Member's specific question about are there principles that are adhered to when transfers are being negotiated, I can advise that all of the transfer agreements are reviewed by MACA prior to being forwarded to Cabinet FMB for their review and approval. We do review those to ensure that they are consistent with the areas that I pointed out earlier that we have been negotiating with the NWTAM for almost two years now. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, merci. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are there timeframes attached to the amount of time that these negotiations are going to take place or can they go on forever and a day? It seems like the communities are ready to take on these initiatives, but because it takes so long they lose the energy of spending years and years trying to look at some initiative. There does not seem to be a real priority of this government to ensure that the adequate funds or the obligations that they were talking about are made in a timely manner. Due to the time delay of trying to take on these responsibilities, the communities are left wondering exactly how much priority does this government give to allowing communities to find the adequate resources and making sure they have funds in place so when they do take over infrastructure, whatever...
--Interruption
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Could I have some order here. Mr. Miltenberger is a little loud to my left here, so could I have some order in the House.
--Laughter
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The Chair John Ningark
I agree with you, Mr. Krutko. There is a side conversation going on here. It is not only from the honourable Member for Thebacha, other Members as well are making some noises there. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister tell me exactly if there are timeframes in place and the adequate resources to ensure that the people negotiating with the communities have the ability to make these deals and that there are resources there, so when the communities do take it on, it is adequate.