BILL 10: Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1998
Debates of Feb. 9th, 1998
Topics
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake that Bill 10, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1998, be read for the first time.
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. First reading of bills. The chair recognizes a quorum. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Bill 10 has had first reading. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters. Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act; Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1998-99; Committee Report 02-13(5); Committee Report 03-13(5); Committee Report 04-13(5); Committee Report 05-13(5); Tabled Document 15-13(5) and Tabled Document 19-13(5). With Mr. Ningark in the Chair.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I would like to call the committee to order. Under item 19 we have a number of items. I would like to ask Mr. Ootes what is the wish of the committee?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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![Jake Ootes](/media/CACHE/images/polpics/13-jake-ootes/45946d5e27f5f78512b798b732a49baa.jpg)
Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We should proceed with Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1998-99; Committee Report 2-13(5); Committee Report 3-13(5) and that we continue with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs followed by Public Works and Services.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes is recommending that we continue with Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1998-99; Committee Report 2-13(5); Committee Report 3-13(5) and that we continue with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs followed by Public Works and Services. Do we agree?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We will now break.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
I would like to call the committee back to order. Before we proceed in reviewing the 1998-99 main estimates on page 4-8, activity summary, emergency services, I would like to ask the honourable Minister if she
wishes to bring in her witnesses before reviewing the program by the Members?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will bring in my witnesses.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Do we agree?
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Proceed, Madam Minister. For the record, Madam Minister, will you please introduce your witnesses to the committee.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you Mr. Chairman. To my left is my deputy minister, Ms. Penny Ballantyne, and to my right is Mr. Vern Christensen, my assistant deputy minister. To my far right is Chris Keeley, director of finance. Thank you.
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Madam Minister. Welcome to the committee. On page 4-8, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $710,000. Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 8-13(5): To Defer Further Consideration Of The Activity Emergency Services, Department Of Maca
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have a motion for the committee. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity emergency services in the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs at this time.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Steen. We will require a copy of your motion before we can deal with the motion. We will take a five-minute break.
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Committee Motion 8-13(5): To Defer Further Consideration Of The Activity Emergency Services, Department Of Maca
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I call the committee back to order. We have a motion moved by the honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Steen. When he moved the motion, there was no written motion. For the record, I will read the motion. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity emergency services in the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs at this time. The motion is in order. The motion is not debatable. Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is defeated. We are reviewing the emergency services of the Department of MACA, page 4-8, total operations and maintenance, $710,000. Agreed?
Committee Motion 8-13(5): To Defer Further Consideration Of The Activity Emergency Services, Department Of Maca
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the whole area of emergency measures and ensuring communities are adequately trained and have the adequate equipment so that they can work, a lot of these fire departments are on a volunteer basis. It is important that these people have the training and the equipment to carry out their jobs when there is a fire and also to ensure that the equipment they have is adequate to do the job and that they are trained on this equipment. Mr. Chairman, in regard to the whole area of ensuring this department and the fire marshal work closely with the communities to ensure that the communities are offered the training the community needs, especially when it comes to the firefighters and to ensure that these people are properly certified when they conclude training, I think most importantly, Mr. Chairman, that they have the equipment to be able to do the job, especially in regard to ensuring the well-being of the community to be able to fight fire and also save lives. They need to ensure the equipment they have operates properly and is up-to-date. I would like to ask the Minister exactly how does the fire marshal and this department work to ensure that all communities are adequately served especially if we are limited in the number of the fire marshals. The department has been downsized in the last couple of years. Can the Minister tell me exactly what is being done to ensure this is done and carried out?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Minister.
Committee Motion 8-13(5): To Defer Further Consideration Of The Activity Emergency Services, Department Of Maca
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The fire marshal's position has not been downsized. We have, in each region, an assistant fire marshal who regularly visits the communities and inspects local fire halls and equipment. They make recommendations to the communities on how to correct any problems with their equipment. The position has not been downsized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Madam Minister. Mr. Krutko.
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