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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a constituent visiting from the community of Kimmirut, Mr. Jawlie Mingeriak.

--Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a good friend of mine and also the new Deputy Minister of Culture, Youth and Elders, for the new Government of Nunavut, Mr. Peter Ernerk. Mr. Picco informs me that Mr. Ernerk is one of his new constituents. Thank you.

--Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am here to recognize some of the people that have not been recognized. I see some elders in the gallery, and I would like to welcome you to this Legislature. Thank you.

--Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. I would like to recognize Rhoda Perkison, a former deputy clerk of the House.

--Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ootes.

Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Finance, regarding my statement earlier today. With regard to the Highways Initiative Project and where the allocation for the money is coming from, I wonder if the Minister could address that issue for me and tell me where the money is coming from specifically on the highway's project. Thank you.

Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The dollars assigned to the major highways initiatives are coming from the supplementary appropriations.

Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the P3 projects, I tallied up a little over $3 million, allocated in the 1998-99 budget. Could the Minister tell us where that funding will go since the projects will be allocated as P3 projects? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like some clarity. Is my honourable colleague talking about the road's strategy or is he talking about the P3 projects that we have all been discussing since early January? If he can give me some clarity, then I can give him an answer.

Further Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Ootes. Your supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned earlier in February/March, we approved the operations and maintenance budget as well as the capital budget. Within the capital budget, it had reference to a number of projects, some of which had $200,000, for example I believe the Fort McPherson project is about $200,000 in the budget. What I am curious about is where that money will be allocated to for those particular projects that were in this year's budget.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to step back a little bit and give some history here so everybody understands the issue. I had spoken to the committee at length, at which Mr. Ootes, of course, is a Member. I believe he was at one of the meetings, if my memory serves me correctly, and I will go back and check that. I indicated then that in our budget statement of January we will move forward on some P3 projects. We also indicated that we were going to try to bring forward some new monies for the desperate need in the housing program and that the reallocation of some of the capital projects into P3 projects will be put toward the development of the new housing initiative. That was clear at the time, I have spoken on a number of occasions about that issue and it was understood. I then sent a letter on March 9, 1998, to Mr. Erasmus, Chairman of the Standing Committee on the Government Operations, outlining the criteria for P3 and outlining a list of potential projects that the deputy ministers had allocated and where they thought they would get the best cost recovery based on the criteria that were set for P3.

I then received a letter from the standing committee and followed up with a further letter on March 23, 1998, to all Members of the Legislative Assembly, including Mr. Ootes. On April 16, 1998, based on the request from Mr. Ootes with respect to P3 meeting all the criteria and all the questions he asked in the House, the projects, I then sent him a ten-page correspondence outlining what was occurring and why it was occurring. Mr. Speaker, just give me a moment because it goes on and on and on. Maybe my honourable colleague forgot to read his mail. On April 28, 1998, he then wrote to me again. Mr. Speaker, if the honourable colleague has read his mail, he has obviously not read it properly because we have answered the questions and that is the point I am trying to make here. On May 6, 1998, we also wrote all the Members and I specifically wrote to all the Members with respect to the P3 projects prior to any official public release of the P3 projects. Then on May 25, 1998, I wrote to Mr. Ootes specifically with respect to the $3.6 million approved in the main estimates and explained to him where the money was going.

Further Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, I see $3.17 million in the budget that is now going elsewhere. I still do not know exactly where it is going. More importantly why was it not allocated to the appropriate place in the first place, when we were discussing it. A week later we were into a bunch of new projects. I do not have an objection to the projects. It is just that it was not allocated in the proper departments perhaps.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I will try to keep it simple and I will talk real slow. Mr. Speaker, I said from the very beginning, in which Mr. Ootes was aware of in committee and all the Members were, that we were going to reallocate some of the P3 project money into housing money that is desperately needed right across the Northwest Territories. That was explained from the very beginning. The P3 projects were identified by the deputy ministers to ensure the government is going to get value for money et cetera. I wrote to the Government Operations Committee, Mr. Erasmus, who I have worked cooperatively with the last two and half years and asked him for input to the P3 projects. I received the response from him. I believe you are a member of that committee or can be a member of that committee if you wish to attend. Give me some input into the projects. I then wrote to each and every Member about the projects prior to the public release. I do not know how else to explain it to my colleagues. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 525-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am still confused as to where the $3.2 million is. The Minister is stating it went into the housing program. I just do not know why we did not put it in there in the first place. I do not have any objection to the project. Thank you.