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Member's Statement 415-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In February and March, Members of this House spent seven weeks reviewing and approving the territorial budget. When we finished, we had given clear direction for the upcoming year's operations and maintenance and capital expenditures. I had a firm idea of what projects would be undertaken. Apparently, I was mistaken. Within days of finishing the budget, I got a press

release that said, Finance Minister Todd and Transportation Minister Antoine have identified $2 million to do a transportation study.

Now, I am all for such a study, Mr. Speaker. It is badly needed. We never discussed this in this House, nor did we approve a budget for this study. Nor, was the Standing Committee of Resources, of which I am a Member, ever made aware of this project. The question, of course, is where did this money come from?

Also, during the February/March session we discussed the P3 process. We passed a 13-point motion for Cabinet to live within certain guidelines. A week after the session, I got another press release, one that announced Finance Minister Todd had unveiled a list of P3 projects to be undertaken this year.

Again, I am all for projects and for the P3, but again, we never discussed these projects in this House, and we should have. What happens to the $3.170 million that we approved in this year's budget for some of these projects? Is there a pool of money for projects that do not have to come before this House? If so, it makes a farce of consensus government and a mockery of democracy.

I believe the people of the NWT are tired of this apparent lack of transparency. I will be pursuing this through questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 415-13(5): Funding For Major Highways Initiative
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Member's Statement 416-13(5): Collapse Of Local Tourism Operators
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I would like to make a brief statement about tourism in the western Arctic. During the 12th Assembly, a decision was made to collapse or do away with all of the regional tourism boards and agencies and to centralize them into two operations, one in the east and one in the west. Since I have been elected, Mr. Speaker, I have heard repeatedly of the attention and the concern brought to me by tourism operators in Fort Smith and Hay River that what has been done has basically taken all of the wind out of the sails, the initiative and the capability of local tourism operators to have any meaningful input into tourism and tourism decisions that are made.

With things being centralized in Yellowknife, there is a natural tendency for decisions to be made by the people here and there is a natural tendency due to centrifugal force, as we all know historically, for Yellowknife to accrue the first benefits of tourism funding. I am concerned, Mr. Speaker, maybe it is time to evaluate the decision that was made in the 12th Assembly to see how well it is working, and if it is not working as well as expected and if there are enough legitimate concerns out there, that steps be taken to, in fact, adjust the process to ensure local tourism operators do have a meaningful avenue of input into tourism decisions since we have pointed out in all of our planning that tourism is one of the key priorities of the Northwest Territories. During question period, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister of RWED about this particular issue and the need in the upcoming business planning process to take a look at the decisions that have been made in the past to see if they are still relevant today. Thank you.

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Member's Statement 416-13(5): Collapse Of Local Tourism Operators
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Member's Statement 417-13(5): Recognition Of Kimmirut Community Group
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to pay tribute to an organization in my home community of Kimmirut. The group, Ikaarutit, was started one and a half years ago by volunteers and local leaders, Jeannie Padluq and Kowisa Arlooktoo. The name means, bridge or a way to crossover.

Ikaarutit raises money to pay for tickets for family members who cannot afford to visit very sick relatives or to attend funerals. To date, the group has raised and spent over $10,000 and have assisted in helping many families to deal with their grief and healing.

Mr. Speaker, at one point, the government helped to pay for compassionate travel expenses of those on income support, but this program was eliminated during the deficit reduction exercise a few years ago. I would note that this was not solely a result of budget cutbacks as there were also real issues of fairness as to who received program benefits.

My point is, Mr. Speaker, these two community leaders recognized a problem and worked to solve it in the community by creating this organization. This is a real example of community self-reliance and I am proud.

Mr. Speaker, my constituency office receives, on average, one or two calls a week from family members who cannot afford to go see a terminally ill family member in one of the Montreal/Ottawa hospitals or to attend a funeral of a family member.

Mr. Speaker, not including the expense of hotels and meals, the cost of visiting someone in the hospital from Kimmirut is over $2,100 return. Aggravating these already stressful situations is that usually the person in the hospital or the one who must make the visit is the main income earner for the family and must take leave without pay. Sick leave or special leave credits do not last long. Mr. Speaker, there are also the additional costs of ensuring that the family left at home is being looked after financially and otherwise.

Needless to say, Mr. Speaker, I personally know families that have lost loved ones due to cancer, other diseases or by accident and have become financially bankrupt during the process. There are many families close to the same situation as I speak. When constituents talked to me about this issue, the area they stressed was the apparent unfairness. Mr. Speaker, I notice I am out of time, I would like to conclude my statement.

Member's Statement 417-13(5): Recognition Of Kimmirut Community Group
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Baffin South is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Arlooktoo, you have unanimous consent.

Member's Statement 417-13(5): Recognition Of Kimmirut Community Group
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During my constituency meetings, they stressed the apparent unfairness. An example I will use is, because I live near a hospital here in Yellowknife, if I happen to land in the hospital for some reason, my family could visit me for a total cost of $8.00 return cab fare or possibly $2.00 worth of fuel if they took their own vehicle. This is compared to several thousand dollars and many days away from home for an individual in my constituency.

Mr. Speaker, I started out by paying tribute to Ikaarutit and I hope I have made everyone more aware of how important their work is. Unfortunately, they will have no shortage of families to assist which is all funded from donations from a cash-strapped community of 450 residents. They have asked me to pass along their appreciation to individuals who have assisted in making donations. Local boards and agencies, businesses and First Air, have been cooperative. I understand that due to the stress and difficulty of raising money, let alone of deciding whom to assist and to whom to say no to, the group has considered disbanding. I hope this does not happen.

Mr. Speaker, I stand here today to say that we are thankful to this group, that their efforts are appreciated and I encourage them to keep helping these families in real need. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 417-13(5): Recognition Of Kimmirut Community Group
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Member's Statement 418-13(5): Iqaluit Breakers Swim Team
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, since January, a group of swimmers have gathered together to form the Iqaluit Breakers Swim Team. There are nine swimmers altogether, from the ages of 13 to 17, and all of the swimmers are involved in the lifesaving and lifeguard program. The Iqaluit Breakers participated in the Kimberlite Classic Swim Meet held here in Yellowknife during the month of May. While in Yellowknife, they had an opportunity to compete against the Yellowknife Polar Bear Swim Club. Overall they raced aggressively and broke their own personal race times and proved to be competitive opponents. Mr. Speaker, since then the swimmers have asked if they could swim at 6:00 a.m., twice a week in addition to the three other swimming practices that they have had. As you can see, the whole experience has had a positive impact on the swimmers having achieved their goals that they have worked hard for, they are keener than ever and look forward to competing next year, in January and May, here in Yellowknife in different swimming competitions. Mr. Speaker, their coach, Karen LeBlanc, hopes to come here to Yellowknife this summer to participate in a Coaching Level II Certificate Program. She is hoping to recruit younger swimmers to compete next year in Iqaluit. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate the Iqaluit swimming team, the Iqaluit Breakers and their coach, Ms. Karen LeBlanc. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 418-13(5): Iqaluit Breakers Swim Team
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

Member's Statement 419-13(5): Highway And Airport Service To Rae-edzo
Item 3: Members' Statements

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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past many years, my predecessors and myself have lobbied strong and hard to provide an adequate and safe highway between Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife. This project has taken many years to get where it is today. This summer, according to the capital plan for 1998-99, we should see the start of the last 100 kilometres of reconstruction. We know this will take years before we have a completely paved highway between Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife, but this is only the start.

Over the last couple of winters, this road has become very busy with the construction of BHP, all the explorations and many hundreds of trucks travel this section to deliver their freight. It has become such an important link that I understand, over this past hauling season, there was approximately one truck travelling every three to four minutes apart on this road. This of course, does not include any local traffic from the communities or regular freight hauled on a scheduled basis. This road is very important to everyone.

With this in mind, it is the reasoning behind the Dogrib Rae Band's development plan for the new airport and staging area outside of Edzo. To date, this project has been funded through the band council's operations with training programs and donations. Last year, the band council stated this project and with little funding were able to complete approximately 25 percent. This year they will continue to improve this site and hopefully with support from this government and the private sector we will see an airport to service my community of Rae-Edzo in the near future.

With this area being developed, the council's hope is to provide an alternate staging, as that will relieve the pressures this highway construction will have on all resupply to Yellowknife and the mines. I do hope we are starting this highway construction this summer. However, today I heard the Department of Indian Affairs will not let construction begin until an environmental review is complete. This, I can say, came as rather a surprise considering this project is now in its fifth year in the capital plan. The Department of Transportation has not completed this review yet.

I would also like to say that later today, I will be asking the Minister of Transportation questions regarding this project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 419-13(5): Highway And Airport Service To Rae-edzo
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas.

Member's Statement 420-13(5): High Cost Of Air Travel In The North
Item 3: Members' Statements

May 24th, 1998

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise

today in the House to talk about an issue that is very important to my constituents, the high cost of air travel in the north.

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, this government's financial problems have resulted in the end of compassionate travel benefits for the people of the north. When a loved one is sick or dying, it is now virtually impossible for relatives from other communities to be able to afford to visit their loved ones in their time of need.

Mr. Speaker, we pay the highest airfares in the world and, unfortunately, in Nunavut there are limited other options for travelling between communities. In the east First Air operates as a monopoly. The people I represent have no choice but to pay whatever airfare rate First Air decides the market will bear.

If you compare Yellowknife and Iqaluit as points of departure south, it is obvious to me that travellers going from Yellowknife to Edmonton have a distinct advantage over travellers going from Iqaluit to Montreal or Ottawa. What is this advantage, Mr. Speaker? The advantage is seat sales. Since the departure of Canadian Airlines from the Iqaluit-Montreal run, seat sales have been non-existent in the east.

I applaud the purchase of Canadian North by Nunasi Corporation. Some people might be concerned that two Inuit birthright corporations competing for the same travelling dollar in the same market are counter to Inuit tradition. Mr. Speaker, I have no problems with this, both organizations are financially strong and have the necessary leadership to deal with the consequences of air travel competition in the north.

Mr. Speaker, it is my hope that competition will lead to lower airfares for my constituents. I strongly encourage the new owners of Canadian North to re-enter the Iqaluit-Montreal market. Fair and honest competition makes for better companies and better services to the customer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 420-13(5): High Cost Of Air Travel In The North
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.

Member's Statement 421-13(5): Fishing Opportunities In Yellowknife North
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak about tourism, and particularly to speak about tourism in the Yellowknife North constituency. Mr. Speaker, it is a well-known fact that there is very good fishing in the numerous parks and lakes along the Ingraham Trail. These are available by road, most of them within 30 minutes. I can attest that there is still trophy fish available in those lakes. To give you a good example, just this past weekend, Iqaluit MLA, Mr. Picco landed two huge pickerels in Prelude Lake. He informs me he waged a 20-minute battle with each of these fish. When I asked him how come he is such a good fisherman, he looked at me in a funny way, and he said, I am a Newfoundlander. So I guess that explains it.

Anyway, Mr. Speaker, I would like to invite tourists and visitors alike to visit these lakes and the Yellowknife North constituency and experience world class trophy fishing and angling, as evidenced by Mr. Picco's success. Thank you.

--Applause

Member's Statement 421-13(5): Fishing Opportunities In Yellowknife North
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Member's Statement 422-13(5): Providing Quality Education For Our Children
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to speak to the importance of a quality education from a very personal perspective. Providing a quality education to the children of the north is not an optional undertaking. It is our mandate, our legal and moral obligation. We must ensure the resources necessary to provide for an education comparable to what our children would receive anywhere in Canada. This is not a lofty or laudable goal. It is the law.

If you went back to my home town of Saint Mary's, Ontario to interview my teachers, if you could still find any of them alive because they all seemed really, really old at the time, they would probably tell you that little Jane Osler would not have been considered the teacher's pet, a particularly model student or even elected most likely to succeed in life. They would probably tell you that the Osler kids spent more time working at their parents' family business than they did doing home work or even attending school. What I am saying, Mr. Speaker, is that in spite of not being a model student or even a particularly attentive one, I am thankful every day for the core subjects grounding that I got when I was paying attention. In grade school, I attended classes called, English, grammar, phonics, vocabulary, math, sciences and social studies. Personally, the greatest asset that I acquired in school was the ability to read, write and speak. I would consider it nothing less than a serious life impacting handicap to lack the skills to communicate my thoughts in writing and verbally without that confidence. For that, Mr. Speaker, I thank the patience and dedication of educators to whom we all owe our respect and thanks no matter where we were educated.

Literacy affects our ability to learn and comprehend almost everything else. As we consider education in the north, let us consider quality, curriculum and adequate resources for our teachers to do their job. We owe our children nothing less. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 422-13(5): Providing Quality Education For Our Children
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Member's Statement 423-13(5): Lack Of Funding For Inuvik Youth Centre
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have heard many times in this Assembly the issue of youth and the younger generation who are coming up. Mr. Speaker, I would like to commend the Inuvik Youth Centre Board and its coordinator for one year of working with the youth in the community of Inuvik. Their work has helped provide a place for the youth to gather, play games or learn new experiences from

one another. Without a youth centre or facility, we would have a lot more youth on the streets. As we know, in many northern communities, if they are not into going out travelling and hiking out on the land, then they are hanging around in the communities and with our extended sunlight hours in the summer, they have little else to do. Those people get involved with the youth at the community level who provide for time together and share experiences, as I said earlier.

But I have a concern with the youth centre in Inuvik. They worked this year and managed to keep the doors open with the help of many other organizations in the community. They are finding themselves in some difficulty right now because of lack of funding. As I said, we have spoken on many occasions, whether it is education or other things with the young, but if we do not go beyond saying things here, we have not done anything. Words are good inspiration, but we need to see action to get things done. I hope that while I am here, I can meet with different Ministers to find out if there is any funding available for programs for youth that the youth centre in Inuvik might be able to tie into and help keep the operation going to help the youth stay involved and believe in the things we are doing for them, not to get tired of just hearing us speak about it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Member's Statement 423-13(5): Lack Of Funding For Inuvik Youth Centre
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Member's Statement 424-13(5): GNWT Workplace Accessibility To Disabled Citizens
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today in regard to a very important issue here in the Northwest Territories and also in Nunavut. There are a lot of people who have physical disabilities. It could be in the form of physical, mental or otherwise. There are also people who are confined to wheelchairs. There are all kinds of disabilities that we can think of which limits some people to go around. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I want the work places, wherever they may be, particularly government departments, to be more accessible to people who are in wheelchairs so that people with limited mobility can access these buildings. We should be more than open to these people who would like to go into some departments because they have the same kinds of needs that we have. Therefore, I just wish some departments and workplaces to be more open to people with all kinds of disabilities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Member's Statement 424-13(5): GNWT Workplace Accessibility To Disabled Citizens
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. All Members are doing well with their Members' statements, but I would like to request that some of the Members who do have written text to slow down when they are reading and allow the translators time to translate for the unilingual Members. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine.

Return To Oral Question 487-13(5): Canadian Departure Tax
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Picco on March 3, 1998. A reply made by myself in regard to the Canadian Departure Tax on March 3, 1998. The date this House adjourned, the Premier took a question on notice from the Member for Iqaluit concerning this Canadian Departure Tax. I believe the Member was referring to the Air Transportation Tax.

Mr. Speaker, Canada is changing the way it pays for its air navigation system. Transport Canada used to operate Canada's air navigation system as a federally subsidized public service. The federal government recovered about 85 percent of the cost of the air navigation system through the Air Transportation Tax. The tax was added to the price of air passenger tickets. The remaining cost of the system was paid for from Transport Canada's annual appropriation from Parliament.

NAV Canada was established as a private corporation to assume responsibility for the air navigation system from Transport Canada and to operate the system independently of government on a cost recovery basis. The transition to cost recovery is taking place this year in two steps. Phase 1 took effect on March 1st and Phase 2 will take effect on November 1st. As NAV Canada introduces its new service fees on air carriers, the Air Transportation Tax on passenger fares is eliminated. Half the Air Transportation Tax was removed on April 1st and the rest will go on November 1st.

How the air carriers decide to recover NAV Canada's new service fees from their customers is a matter of the carrier's corporate pricing strategy. The Air Transportation Tax was collected strictly on passenger fares. Now, the air carriers have new flexibility to recover the NAV Canada service fees from either their passenger or their freight revenues or some combination of both.

I would like the Member to know that, with the northern air carriers, the Department of Transportation mounted a vigorous lobbying campaign that has been successful in modifying the impact of the new service fees on northern air routes.

The lobbying campaign made NAV Canada recognize that the fee structure, as it was originally proposed, had a greater impact on northern than southern air routes. As a result, NAV Canada agreed to raise the weight limit of the aircraft to which the Phase I fees would apply from 5.5 to 8 tonnes. The higher weight limit exempted twin otters and similar sized aircraft from the Phase I fees. The department also won the important concession that the new fees would not apply to flights departing from northern and remote airports where the air navigation services are delivered by our CARS Program.

The next and last phase of the service fees will come into effect on November 1st. So far, NAV Canada has circulated a discussion paper on the Phase 2 fees that considers several options. It has made no firm proposal at this time.

With other Departments of Transportation and northern carriers, the department has proposed, (1) exempting small aircraft under 8 tonnes altogether in Canada, or (2) exempting small aircraft under 8 tonnes in the northern and remote areas of Canada. NAV Canada has not rejected either proposal and appears to be giving them serious consideration. We will have to wait and see. The department expects NAV Canada to release its Phase 2 fee proposal sometime in August.

Although, I cannot be specific at this time, I am reasonable confident that we will have similar success in influencing the Phase 2 fees as we have had with the Phase 1 fees. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Oral Question 487-13(5): Canadian Departure Tax
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Ms. Thompson.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize the mayors in my riding, Aivilik. We have in the gallery Mr. Louis Primeau, SAO for Coral Harbour, beside him is Mr. Johnny Ningeongan the Mayor of Coral Harbour and Percy Kabloona from Whale Cove. Mr. Steve Mapsalak Mayor of Repulse Bay and Donat Milortuk who is a member of the Keewatin Inuit Association. Thank you.

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