This is page numbers 943 - 983 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Access To Information
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Premier for setting this up. I too agree that we must all be accountable for our actions as Members of the 14th Legislative Assembly.

Mr. Speaker, I believe that I have been very accommodating. I have waited patiently for the other side of the story and I am disappointed, Mr. Speaker, that the other side of the story has not come forward. Mr. Speaker, I think Members of this Assembly, Members on this side of the floor have even provided options that could be done to try to clarify this situation. In fact, a letter was sent to the Premier dated November 14, in which we gave three options to clear up the situation.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier has continued, in my situation at least, to be evasive. I will quote, Mr. Speaker, from unedited Hansard of November 14, 2000, page 1460. In response to my question, the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi stated in one of his responses:

"I have said before that I know Members can say outrageous things. They can say things that are not based on fact. They can create legislation that does not exist and make reference to it".

Mr. Speaker, I spoke of legislation, the Access to Information and Protection Act. That is not a phantom piece of legislation, Mr. Speaker. We even quote section 23(4)(e) which refers to what kind of information we would be allowed under the Access to Information Act.

Mr. Speaker, he could have dealt with this up-front in one day, in a matter of an hour, but no. The leaders of this government have chosen to try to side step the issue, to swim in the grey areas, they say, but that has not been clear. I even took the Premier up on his offer to see the contract for myself. As of yet, I have not been granted approval to see that. How can I make my mind up or make a decision on half of the information? I was hoping that the Premier and the Cabinet would supply the other half of the information so that we could clear this up. By purposely not doing that, we have created confusion. We have created conspiracy theories and we are losing confidence, Mr. Speaker. Again, I hope that the Premier will have the opportunity and do the right thing and show that information to us. Thank you.

Access To Information
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Déclarations des députés. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Action On Violence Against Women
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Like the honourable Member for Hay River South, I would also like to pay tribute to the 14 young women who were killed in Montreal on December 6, 1989. I also would like to pay tribute to all the other women.

According to a document called "First Mourn, Then Work for Change", 100 women a year die in domestic violence, Mr. Speaker. As we are approaching that date and we will not be in the House in Session on that date, I want to remember those women and all the other women and their families.

To honour those women, we should be looking at ways to make changes, to make things better for women. We do not have to look very far to see that there is a lot that can be done to improve the lives of women in the Northwest Territories. Women are often prohibited from taking part in work or political activity due to childcare problems. For instance, there is no capital funding program to assist communities that do not have suitable buildings to set up a day care centre, Mr. Speaker.

There is also a lack of flexibility with day care programs which are mainly offered during the day time, but not nights or weekends. Seventy-nine percent of all Northwest Territories single parents are females, Mr. Speaker. Day cares are needed. If they do not have the resources in their communities for high quality day care with flexible hours, they are limited to what they can do outside of work and the home. By creating this situation, we as a collective community are short changing ourselves.

Mr. Speaker, in our Members' Conduct Guidelines, we are bound to do our utmost to promote the equality of all our people, yet women are still earning less than men. The average income for women in the Northwest Territories is 71 percent of what a man earns. Mr. Speaker, that is not equality.

I hope Members of this House will find time to make a real effort to boost services to women. Mr. Speaker, we need to respect women. We need to respect our wives, our mothers, our sisters, our aunts and our friends, if we are to avoid violence against women and if we are to accept them as equals. Mr. Speaker, I will be glad to wear the white ribbon. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Action On Violence Against Women
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Nitah. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.

Literacy Strategy And Training Initiatives
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we are coming to the end of session, I thought that it was important to re-raise the issue of the literacy strategy that this government is working on. I hope indeed that the next time we get together to meet, we will be discussing how to implement the new strategy, because I think that it is one of the most critical issues we face today, Mr. Speaker.

Indeed, I met a gentlemen the other day at a function who asked me what I thought the most important challenge was for us to rise up and meet in the Northwest Territories. I thought about it for a few minutes and decided that I thought training was going to be very important for us, Mr. Speaker. We are faced with the potential of immense economic opportunity but these opportunities will pass us by, Mr. Speaker, if we do not have, folks who are trained. He said to me that yes, indeed, training will be critical and we will have to work with industry to ensure that Northerners are trained.

However, he suggested to me that it was important to realize the industry would find a way to hire southerners if we were concerned only with training our people who did not have a basic level of education and did not have literacy skills, Mr. Speaker. I think that it is important for us to realize that we put a lot of money and a lot of effort into education, into adult basic education and into literacy.

BHP, Mr. Speaker, has recognized this and they are embarking on their own literacy strategy and spending considerable dollars in this area. We cannot continue to be focused on protectionist strategies. Socio-economic agreements are fine, Mr. Speaker, and they are a good idea to get us started, but eventually we are going to have to be competitive with the south if we hope to employ Northerners and hope to ensure that these benefits do not pass us by.

I would suggest that we have been employing somewhat of a push strategy for getting our people hired. I think we want to concentrate, Mr. Speaker, on the pull. Let us educate our people. Let us concentrate on literacy, so that when we train them, we are training the best people possible.

Mr. Nitah spoke earlier about the need to wage the war on poverty. Mr. Speaker, I believe that he is right. I believe the war on poverty starts with education. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Literacy Strategy And Training Initiatives
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Déclarations de députés. Madam Lee.

Accomplishments Of The Office Of The Speaker
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on the eve of the last day or the last day, I do not know for sure, I would like to take this time to congratulate you and your office for the positive accomplishments you have achieved over the last year, Mr. Speaker.

Changes, especially positive changes, come very slowly in institutions like this. I believe we must recognize them when they come. For example, I commend you for the ease with which you introduced the traditional Dene outfits for our staff here. It was done so smoothly that we take it for granted, and it seems as though it has always been here. I think the significance of that is recognized by everyone, everyday when they turn the TV on.

Mr. Speaker, for one who is limited from speaking out by virtue of your office, I must say your actions speak very loud and clear. To give more examples, I congratulate you on the appointment of the first woman Sergeant-at-Arms, Nicole Latour-Theede, and the three very prominent positions of Conflict of Interest Commissioner, Carol Roberts; Official Languages Commissioner, Phoebe Tatti; Access to Information and Privacy Commissioner, Elaine Keenan-Bengts, who are all women, Mr. Speaker. I congratulate you and the Board of Management for recognizing that it is not hard to find excellent women who just happen to be the best man or person for the job if you look for them.

There are other changes we noticed, Mr. Speaker, that we take for granted which has become a reality without a lot of fuss. I congratulate you for enlarging our parking lot without damaging too much of the environment surrounding us. I have noticed that you have introduced name tags for staff and visitors. I am not sure if there have been any complaints, but from where I sit I see that as a change.

So you have done a lot, Mr. Speaker. You did it very quietly. I would just like to encourage the government to move as swiftly and positively and without much fuss in improving lots of great things. So, I congratulate you and thank you.

-- Applause

Accomplishments Of The Office Of The Speaker
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

In situations like this, two-and-a-half minutes is not enough.

-- Laughter

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Steen.

Subject Matters Discussed By The 14th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in a very little while, next month, our communities will be going to the polls for municipal elections. They will also be taking part in the federal election shortly.

In regard to the municipal elections, I would like to take this opportunity to encourage people to run for leadership positions and be active in the voting process, both federal and municipal. There are also community corporation elections in some of my communities as well.

The point I wish to make here, Mr. Speaker, is that I am not sure whether I would like them to follow our examples in this House. I have been told from back home, that we seem to spend a lot of time squabbling over what salaries are for our EAs, what the roles and responsibilities are of our staff, rather than major issues that are bothering this Territory, such as economic development opportunities, our social problems and our health problems. The people I speak to at home would like me to urge people, the Members here, to concentrate on more serious issues in this government. Thank you.

-- Applause

Subject Matters Discussed By The 14th Assembly
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Déclarations de députés. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey.

Concerns Of Disabled Persons
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I had hoped to make a statement on the plight of our disabled residents in the Northwest Territories and especially Hay River. I feel a little disabled myself today because I have not had the time to put into this Member's statement what I had wanted to because of the length of our sessions and the number of meetings we have been having. I think it is important that I do mention the plight of these disabled people.

Mr. Speaker, there has been a committee formed in Hay River comprised of residents with disabilities. They felt this was necessary in order to have their needs addressed. Mr. Speaker, they do have many needs that we as a government have to be aware of and prepared to deal with.

In Hay River, Mr. Speaker, there are many buildings that are not handicapped or wheelchair accessible. In some cases, people with disabilities have a hard time accessing the medical services that they require and, Mr. Speaker, some of them need very special treatment.

Mr. Speaker, Hay River is the only tax-based municipality in the Northwest Territories that does not offer people with disabilities any property tax relief. The Town of Hay River, Mr. Speaker, and this government cannot seem to come to an understanding or an agreement as to who and how the subsidies should be administered.

Also, Mr. Speaker, the fuel subsidy program for seniors that is administered by the Department of Education, Culture and Employment is not offered to people with disabilities who own their own homes. Mr. Speaker, I believe it is high time, in view of the skyrocketing fuel prices, that we offer persons with disabilities some badly needed assistance. In this way, we could help them help themselves and, in a lot of cases, feel a lot better about themselves.

Mr. Speaker, this is not acceptable, given that approximately 80 percent of our people in the Northwest Territories with disabilities have a personal income of less than $20,000. Of this group, 48 percent have a personal income of less than $10,000. I would think surely that we as a government would not be adverse to helping this segment of our society. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Concerns Of Disabled Persons
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

Wishes Of Success To Hunters And Trappers
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I stand and want to recognize the hunters and trappers and also the harvesters in the Mackenzie Delta and specifically my riding of Inuvik Twin Lakes, recognizing that they are going through difficult times trying to sustain a livelihood that we are so accustomed to. I just want to stand here and wish them well for this trapping season. Hopefully they will have a prosperous season as well as a safe one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Wishes Of Success To Hunters And Trappers
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 172-14(3): Public Sector Salary Comparison
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Braden on November 1, 2000 regarding public sector salaries.

The tentative agreement reached with the Union of Northern Workers, and that is currently in the ratification process, will provide for an increment to the pay line of 3.8 percent in the first year and 2.5 percent in the second year. These increases maintain the competitive position the GNWT holds in comparison to other public sector employees in Canada.

Return To Question 172-14(3): Public Sector Salary Comparison
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 176-14(3): Bison Problem In Fort Providence
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. McLeod on November 1, 2000 regarding the liability of the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development should the bison in Fort Providence injure or kill someone.

Liability depends upon the facts and circumstances of the incident from which a claim for damages arises. Generally, the Government of the Northwest Territories is not liable for damages caused by the actions of wild animals and would not be held liable for the actions of wild bison in Fort Providence.

The bison in question were introduced into the Fort Providence area by the federal government in 1963. RWED sets the quota for the number of bison that may be harvested, in consultation with the community of Fort Providence and undertakes some research to understand the impact of those harvests on the herd. However, the department does not manage individual bison within the herd nor does it control their activities or movements.

The department has expressed its willingness to work with the Hamlet of Fort Providence and the Fort Providence Resource Management Board (FPRMB) to develop a plan to deter bison from occupying Fort Providence. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 176-14(3): Bison Problem In Fort Providence
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 178-14(3): Fulfilling Government Promises
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Dent on November 1, 2000. The question was, will this government deliver on promises made by employees to members of the public or to aboriginal governments.

The question is very broad and the Member did not provide information on any particular circumstance that may have given rise to the question.

However, it is clear that when an employee takes a position that is consistent with the law of the GNWT and Canada, is reflective of current GNWT policies, Cabinet and the Legislative Assembly's direction, and is within the GNWT's financial capabilities and the employee's authority and mandate, then that position will be acted upon by this government.

I would be happy to provide more specific information to a more specific question. Thank you.

Return To Question 178-14(3): Fulfilling Government Promises
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 193-14(3): Remittance Of Taxes Owed To The GNWT
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Bell on November 3, 2000 regarding payroll tax remittance.

All of the $8.8 million collected in payroll tax in 1999-2000 consisted of tax remittances. Over 90 percent of payroll tax registrants remit the tax on or before the due date, with the bulk of the remainder remitting shortly thereafter.

Recognizing the administrative burden faced by small businesses, the Department of Finance attempts to be flexible in ensuring compliance. However, the department, in following up, does remind late filers of the interest and penalty provisions in the Payroll Tax Act.

Return To Question 193-14(3): Remittance Of Taxes Owed To The GNWT
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 279-14(3): Summer Student Employment Program
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Bell on November 15th regarding whether the recommendations from the report of the Student Working Group on Student Graduate Employment would be enacted by Christmas break.

As mentioned in an earlier response, the Department of the Executive is working with NorthWin to quickly implement an online student employment Web site. This Web site will allow students to apply online for summer employment. The contract for the Web site is being awarded this week. While there will be an attempt to get the site up and running by late December, corporate human resource services will also be advising students of how they can submit applications either in person or online during the Christmas break for possible summer employment in 2001.

In terms of the other recommendations in the report, they will be reviewed by a committee of human resource practitioners over the coming months with the objective of revising and improving the student summer employment program for summer 2001.

Mr. Bell also asked about possible employment over the Christmas period for students. While some students may be home early enough to obtain a short period of casual employment, the mandatory leave days mean there is limited casual work over the Christmas break within government. Thank you.

Return To Question 279-14(3): Summer Student Employment Program
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Premier Kakfwi. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 225-14(3): Hotel Room Tax Survey
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Ms. Lee on November 7, 2000 regarding the hotel room tax survey. The contract is for the amount of $20,000. Thank you.