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Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause two.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause three.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause four.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause five. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

A question on item four in regard to the Financial Administration Act supplementary appropriation.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Does the Committee agree that we go back to clause four?

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Go ahead, Mr. Krutko, clause four.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the concern I have is that by using supplementary appropriation for capital investment expenditures, we have to realize that through the Financial Administration Act, we do have some contingencies in place for ensuring we do not see misuse of this for finding a new way to have capital investment put in through a supplementary, and not going through the planning process.

Could the Minister tell me exactly, in the Financial Administration Act, is there a process in place for informing Members and what not, if these capital items are being put forth, or that it could have an effect on other Members' capital issues? I would like to ask the Minister, have you looked at the possibility of tightening up the Financial Administration Act so there is no misuse of supplementaries for capital investments?

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, there is not a provision in the Financial Administration Act in itself to ensure that, but there is a policy in place requiring consultation. That is done on a quarterly basis. As well, in the event that the expenditure is over a certain amount, then there is also a policy requiring consultation with the MLA. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. I would caution the Members to not make any allegations about the misuse of supplementaries. We do not know of that. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman, there have been instances in the past where funds have been moved from individual ridings to another person's riding with no consultation. That is why they have made attempts to do that and because of that, there have been funds taken out of, say, a capital project, and moved to another person's riding when that fund was originally allocated to a particular riding.

I would like to state again that there has to be a tightening up of the rules. We have to put some contingencies in place. I think we may not have much of a surplus to play with now. Looking at the possibility of a deficit, where we are looking at cutting $50 million, there may have to be some contingencies made in this area to ensure that we do not use supplementaries to possibly put us back in debt again because of the way that it has come forth.

Again, I would like to ask the Minister, will he consider bringing forth amendments to the Financial Administration Act in regard to protecting ourselves in regard to a deficit situation by misuse of supplementaries for capital items, so we do not go into the old mode of how we were doing things in the past? We are already starting to see cuts in the system and I, for one, feel we have to ensure we follow policies and regulations that are in place to ensure that does not happen. Will he be considering bringing in or amending the Financial Administration Act or policy to ensure that does not happen?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, what I will do is I will give the Member a copy of the policy and I would be happy to receive any advice he wants to give me once he has had a look at the policy. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Clause 4.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 5.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 6

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 38-14(3): To Defer Item "system And Communications" Under The Department Of Public Works And Services, Capital Investment Expenditures, Supplementary Appropriation No. 1, 2000-2001
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 7.