This is page numbers 71 - 108 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was students.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to speak briefly to the principle of this bill. Like my colleagues, I will support the principle of the bill, very clearly reserving my right to influence the department and the Minister in terms of the regulations and how this is going to be translated into action.

Though I know this is a tough political issue, and time is short in negotiating self-government, in the next two to three years, it is possible this program may have been taken over by aboriginal governments. I see what is being proposed as an interim measure. But there are things that can be done by the Minister and his department almost immediately, such as regulations, the structure of the administration, to give students more flexibility. There are very simple administrative things that can relieve the pressure and the frustration the students feel when they go through administrative red tape.

I will support this, but like my colleagues, will be scrutinizing it very carefully when it comes through the committee. We will be working with the Minister for commitments to do what can be done as we look at this interim step. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. To the principle of the bill. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lakes, Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker I will keep this brief as we have had a lot of questions in this area. But I am having a hard time accepting the principle of this bill. It has not been made clear enough if the new funding for this program is going to come on the backs of those that are unsuccessful in their attempts at achieving a post-secondary education.

There is still a difference between the aboriginal groups in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, I hope my social programs colleagues are hearing this and will take this as they review the bill in committee. I am having serious problems with this and the way it looks like it is being designed and put forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. To the principle of the bill. Question has been called. All those in favor? All those opposed? Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act has had second reading. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to a committee. Item 18, second reading of bills. The Honourable Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River South, that Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker, this bill amends the Motor Vehicles Act to remove exemptions that permit certain drivers and passengers to refrain from using seat belts. The bill also permits municipalities to make by-laws respecting bicycles, sleds, skateboards and other such devices, including by-laws requiring the use of personal protective equipment. The Commissioner is likewise empowered to make regulations at the request of a settlement or unincorporated community in respect of these matters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Steen. We have a motion dealing with the bill. To the principle of the bill. Question has been called? All those in favor? All those opposed? Bill 5, has had second reading. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to a committee. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration of committee of the whole of bills and other matters. Minister's Statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement and Bill 2, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1999-2000, with Mr. Krutko in the chair.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you. We are dealing in committee of the whole with Minister's Statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement and with Bill 2, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1999-2000. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would recommend the committee consider Bill 2. I would further move that committee agrees we extend sitting hours to conclude consideration of that item.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

There is a motion on the floor to deal with item 2 and also extend committee of the whole until this item has been concurred with. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. We are dealing with Bill 2, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 1999-2000. Members, you will find the bill in your binders. We will go to the Minister of Finance first for his opening comments on the bill. This will be followed by general comments on the bill by Members. Once general comments have been concluded, the committee will determine if they agree to go into detail of the bill. The Minister will be asked if he wishes to bring in witnesses, with the concurrence of the committee.

The process for the detailed review of the supplementary estimates include a detailed, page by page, review of the document, which is behind the bill in your binders. Once the committee has concluded the detailed review, the committee will go to the bill for a clause-by-clause approval process. After the conclusion of the clause-by-clause consideration, the bill will be reported.

We will begin by asking the Minister responsible for Finance if he would like to make opening comments on this matter.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Supplementary Appropriation No. 3 requests authority for additional appropriations of $9,026,187, made up of $4,111,154 for operations and maintenance expenditures and $4,915,033 for capital expenditures. Approximately $5 million of the new supplementary funding requirements will be offset by new revenues, recoveries or other means. As a result, the net funding requirement is $4 million. These requirements are within the estimated supplementary reserve established in the budget and will not change this year's forecasted deficit of $34 million.

The operations and maintenance supplementary appropriation requirements include the following major items:

  1. $1.3 million for the Department of Health and Social Services to meet the salary obligations arising from finalization of the new Hay Plan job evaluation ratings for nurses and social workers.
  2. $1.1 million for the Department of Finance to address the increase in anticipated interest costs of short term borrowing to meet government financial commitments.

The capital supplementary appropriation requirements include the following major item:

  1. $3.6 million for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation to address capital requirements associated with:
  • • the three-month extension of the Minimum Downpayment Assistance Pilot Project;
  • • independent housing and repair programs in Fort Liard;
  • • construction of two independent housing units in Tulita; and
  • • the private home owner pilings repair initiative in Inuvik.

This requirement is fully offset by a recovery from the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation's 1998-1999 operations and maintenance surplus.

Mr. Chairman, I am prepared to review the details of the supplementary appropriation document. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments to Bill 2. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a concern with the use of special warrants, especially knowing that special warrants could be used in the area of urgent requirement, emergency or is considered in the best interest to the public. That last part can be defined in a fairly broad sense. Knowing that this is a carry over from a previous 13th Assembly, I think it is just a matter of passing on the information and concern to the Finance Minister.

Hopefully, as we go through our own budget cycle and the interim appropriation process comes upon us, this will be considered in future supplementary appropriations. Although the method of carrying these forward is of concern, I think they have been developed in the last number of months, so I do not intend to go into great detail with the Finance Minister in this area. I just want to raise a concern of the actual use of special warrants versus not previously authorized in those areas. Hopefully the Minister will be able to have some remarks on that as we go through this supplementary appropriation. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley, do you wish to reply to that?

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, no, except to agree with the Member that this is a carry over from the last government. I certainly intend to be very diligent in ensuring we abide by the intent and the wording of what special warrants should be used for. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments? If there are no more general comments, I would like to ask if the Minister wishes to bring in witnesses.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I would like to bring in witnesses.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Does the committee concur that the Minister may bring in his witness? Agreed. Would the Sergeant-at-Arms escort the witness in, please? Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance please introduce his witness to the committee?

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, on my right is Lew Voytilla, Secretary to the Financial Management Board Secretariat.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I would like to draw the Members' attention to page 5. We will be dealing with detail. We are on page 5, dealing with detail Executive, operations and maintenance, special warrants, not previously authorized, Executive Offices, Minister's Office, $73,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Minister inform us as to the requirement for a special warrant in this situation? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, the requirement in this case was one where the party involved had paid out the money and required to be reimbursed. I guess that fits within the definition of public interest.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Who owns the building the Native Women's Association is occupying? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.