This is page numbers 295 - 364 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is reviewing and updating municipal legislation in the Northwest Territories. The department submitted a report on municipal legislative review in December of 1998. That is what we are working on. The report included recommendations to expand bylaw making and corporate powers. The recommendations also speak to streamlining procedures, as well as reducing liability exposure. There are instructions in the report outlining detailed drafting instructions that could form the basis of the new legislation. That is, in a nut shell, what we are going to be proceeding on.

Furthermore, there is a Dogrib community government legislation that we have to start working on, which will legislate changes to meet or comply with self-government agreements once that is reached. I will just leave it at that for now. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are there any changes that are going to have an impact on the borrowing powers or debentures to build tax-based municipalities that would change what they are allowed to do and the criteria for debentures? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we do not think there is going to be any changes to what the honourable Member is saying. However, I want to say that we are meeting and continuing to meet with the NWTAM to review this. We will be doing this in July in meetings with the NWTAM, just firming up what we intend to do here. If it is a concern to the honourable Member, perhaps we could raise this issue with them at that time. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It was not specifically a concern, but debentures for tax-based municipalities are sort of a fundamental revenue raising mechanism. I was just curious, since the legislation is old, whether or not this section has been looked at and were there any changes in the municipal legislation area in other jurisdictions that would make it worth while to contemplate any changes? That was my question. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, we are not contemplating any changes in that regard. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. General comments. We are on page 4-9, directorate, operations expense, total operations expense, $3,711,000. Grants and contributions directorate, grants, $135,000, contributions, $150,000. Total grants and contributions, $285,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Go to page 4-13, community financial services, operations expense, total operations expense, $1,367,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, one of the issues we raised in committee was the accountability of municipalities or communities that received funding from the Government of the Northwest Territories. It has been raised in a report on other matters from the Auditor General on third party accountability. In this area, it provides financial advice to regional offices so that regional offices can support good community government and financial practices. Are things being done to improve the situation? We have heard there are a number of communities that do not have some of the right people in place or they have not been able to hire them. Has there been work going on in this area to try to improve this situation? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the deputy minister to provide this information. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Murray.

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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This particular unit has a couple of responsibilities. One is to provide a certain level of financial expertise to communities who may be considering borrowing or may be considering financial changes in some way. They also assist communities who may be dealing with financial trouble by going in and helping them develop recovery plans. In some cases, they go in and help them straighten up their books. In some cases, they help them decide on what kinds of positions they need to fill.

Another important function in this particular division is working, if you will, on an accountability or reporting mechanism. We pick four or five important variables of financial accountability that would be easy for the communities to measure on an ongoing basis, such as cash balance versus their accounts payable. We then add some very simple, basic trends that we could monitor rather than going just by the audit that we see once a year, by getting this information on a more ongoing basis, every quarter or every six months. We are working on a set of guidelines and parameters, but we still need to have a fair level of consultation before we can just implement that because the communities have to be able to gather the information easily. We do not want to make an administrative burden out of this. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to the deputy minister for that information, but what has been done to try to deal with this? This is an ongoing one within the department. Have there been increased steps taken to make sure communities have that third party accountability? Could we expand a little more on that area? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Murray.

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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it is starting to expand and it is further expanding. We have just finished publishing an analysis based on the audits of trends in the various communities and financial problems or skills that they have, in the process of providing that back to the communities as feedback. As well, when we get involved in helping or assisting a community in terms of working out its specific problems, that may take two days. In some cases, it may take several weeks of both regional time as well as people out of headquarters with a higher level of accounting expertise to go in and help them.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In some of the communities, you say there has been this work done and this report going back to communities. Are there timelines set to it as to trying to correct some of the findings that are there?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Murray.