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Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'll commit to investigate the Member's concerns. I've seen some of the documentation he's pulled together, keeping in mind that we have a capacity issue in terms of how much legislation we're able to do in a given period of time. But I will commit to look at that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I'm wondering if the Minister would perhaps even broaden that to include the whole of the Mental Health Act. It is a sizable piece of legislation and given that some...I know there are many of these larger pieces of work that really are carried over from one term to another, they will take more than the years that we have left in this Assembly. Would the Minister take a serious look at investigating and modernizing the whole Mental Health Act? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, very clearly we have an intent to modernize and redo the Mental Health Act, it's just that it's not on the top five or six pieces of legislation that we have on our agenda that we have left in the life of this Assembly. Very clearly, it's one of about 26 pieces of legislation that we have that is out of date and needs to be fixed. At this point, a decision was made where I looked at the pressing priorities to focus on two major pieces, which are the Pharmacy Act and the Public Health Act, in addition to the tobacco and the other personal directives one. We're not arguing that it needs to be done; it's just a question of capacity, timing and sequencing. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Villeneuve.

Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for the FMBS, the Honourable Floyd Roland, with regard to the affirmative action policy that the new human resource amalgamation is planning on eliminating, I guess, out of the new human resource plan. I just wanted to ask the Minister a question about the establishment of the Affirmative Action Advisory Committee when the affirmative action policy was put into place in the early '90s. I just want to ask the Minister, if this committee still exists, what input into this new human resource organization is this Affirmative Action Advisory Committee going to have? Thank you.

Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. The honourable Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board Secretariat, Mr. Roland.

Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the affirmative action policy will not be eliminated. What we are doing is looking at its structure and incorporating it into the new organization and how we would carry on business as the Government of the Northwest Territories. Just to be clear and on the record, affirmative action is still an issue that we're dealing with and looking at how we can carry it forward. If it has the same title or a different title, that's something to be decided.

On the committee the Member spoke about, that has not been in operation for quite some time, so the work we're doing is going to be from in-house and then going to Members initially. Thank you.

Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. Villeneuve.

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess just with respect to the committee that hasn't been in operation for some time, I guess, that could be one of the reasons leading up to the demise of the whole affirmative action policy in the government. I think it's because this committee hasn't been established, it hasn't had any input, it hasn't had any feedback, and it was set up as a monitoring system for the affirmative action policy and that hasn't happened and it hasn't panned out to what people have expected it to pan out to be. I guess the new name the Minister was referring to with the new affirmative action policy and the new human resource amalgamation would be to something along the lines of a succession planning program, which, to me, is the same as the MAP that this government has and is currently lacking in a lot of indigenous aboriginals that are participating in that program; one in nine employees to be precise, Mr. Speaker. I just want to ask the Minister if the affirmative action policy wasn't part of the criteria for the MAP and that education is paramount in anybody advancing in the government in their employment status. That I agree with to some degree, but how much weight can somebody put on their experience in government? Some people have 20 years and they've trained people for three years...

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

What is your question, Mr. Villeneuve?

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

...and the MAP, one of the criteria is that you...

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Do you have a question, Mr. Villeneuve?

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

I just want to ask the Minister what reassurances can he give aboriginal government employees that their experience, and in some cases lack of education, is not going to be the only determining factor in their advancement in management positions? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Roland.

Further Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we should be clear again that the affirmative action policy is not dead. This government is still committed to it. It is still part of our hiring practices. The specific area of succession planning and so on, they are pieces of what we're going to put together and improve on as the Government of the Northwest Territories through our corporate human resource service centres. With the ability, once we have the staff together, working together and having the support of their colleagues, and with the same interpretation of the rules that we operate by, we will be able to improve on the way we deliver human resource services to our employees.

On the specifics of the MAP program, there is some concern there. We're working to try to improve that area. Initially people can nominate themselves, put themselves forward for it, and it can be from all sectors, from communities, regions, headquarters staff. As well, they can be nominated by someone else from within the government and put their name forward. Once their names are in, they go through a process and an assessment. That assessment goes on your ability to get the job done. So whether it's a formal education or an informal education, your experience all comes into play. It's an assessment of where you are in your work history. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Short supplementary, Mr. Villeneuve.

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess with the MAP program, the lack of aboriginal participation in that program, I know that people are nominated and they can nominate themselves, but a lot of people are putting forward their names, but they're just not getting fair consideration, as far as they're concerned, Mr. Speaker. On a few occasions people have applied twice. I notice they're on the second round of the program implementation, and still they're being turned down. These people are long-term government employees with lots of experience. They know in their own mind they can do the management position duties and responsibilities that are asked of them, but the people who are doing the assessment on them are the same people who aren't really big advocates of this whole affirmative action policy, Mr. Speaker. So you're kind of caught between a rock and hard place because human resources is the judge, jury and executioner...

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

What is your question? Do you have a question, Mr. Villeneuve?

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

I want to ask the Minister, when people are applying for this MAP, how can he be sure that they are going to get a fair assessment and a fair hearing and a fair interview with the people that are carrying out the program? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Roland.

Further Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd have to take exception with the Member stating that we have employees out there who are not committed to the policies that we have in place. If there are examples of that, if there's proof of that besides accusations of employees not following the rules, then definitely bring them forward to me and I will work to address them. We have a policy in place. We need to follow those policies. We know there are some problems with the one management program that we have in place. In fact, we're trying to, as we go forward, incorporate it into the work around affirmative action and see how we can in fact bring people up from the communities and regions. Right now it's sort of targeted towards headquarters. People from the regions can apply, but one of their considerations is they'd have to move to headquarters. So we're looking to try to expand it so that there's a regional component of that. Once they move up in that system and move up in their ability to get that job done then they can move on to the next stage. There are bits and pieces. We understand there's a problem; we recognize that and we're going to work to change and fix that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Question 568-15(3): Affirmative Action Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Short supplementary, Mr. Villeneuve.