This is page numbers 69 - 100 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think that is where we should be heading. Madam Speaker, in his work, I wonder if there is any study or research going on as to what numbers we are dealing with. I think there is a very small segment of the population who is severely disabled, whether physically or cognitively, and who are not going to be able to partake in the mainstream working world. They need the help of the government. If the government could help them, with the help of family and friends, they can function relatively well in a situation that doesn't have to be institutional. I would like to know whether in this review process a study is being done as to what sort of needs we are looking at. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Absolutely, we will have that kind of assessment information done as we work through the redesign process, largely because I am going to have to come back to this Assembly for money to pay for whatever program we design. So all of those numbers will be available, yes.

Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I know that the Minister is proposing to bring this to the committee. Could the Minister indicate any time frame as to when the stakeholders outside of this Assembly will be able to partake in this discussion? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am actually meeting with the department tomorrow to update the process and the timelines, but I would expect that we would be ready for the public part of the redesign process no later than the end of June or early July. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My questions this afternoon are for the Minister of Health and Social Services on the issue of the announced transfer and the decision to move the TTC, the treatment centre for behaviourally disabled youngsters, from Yellowknife to Hay River. The Minister said on Friday, in relation to another issue, that it makes sense to have the services as close to the people as possible. At the risk of taking his message or his intent out of context, I really do believe that in this case there is a very strong similarity. Madam Speaker, 75 percent of the young residents are from Yellowknife and north, yet we are looking at moving the facility to a community that is even further away. If the idea is to have the services as close as possible to the people it serves, how do these two square? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Return To Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, dialysis is a requirement when you have been diagnosed with that need and it tends to be there for the rest of your life unless you get a kidney transplant. That's somewhat different than the assessment and treatment services that TTC provides or Bosco provides through TTC, which are assessment and up to two years of possible treatment in a residential setting.

Madam Speaker, you can also look at the numbers in the North in a number of ways. Between 30 to 40 percent or 60 to 70 percent of those accessing the program were from communities outside of Yellowknife. What we have is an opportunity here to move a program to a community that has the capacity to do the job. I have indicated in this House the rationale why last week and that rationale still stands. Thank you.

Return To Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden Great Slave

Madam Speaker, in relation to the comments about the ability of Hay River to provide the services, I am getting some very strong messages, very solid information, that indicates there would be a real ripple effect, not only for the Territorial Treatment Centre, but a number of other related services in my community in Yellowknife. So I want to ask the Minister again to justify why this decision has been made. According to media reports, the requests aren't before this House yet, but some $3 million will be sought to pay for these changes. Why are we being asked to accept this proposal now, this plan, this decision? Why are we being asked to accept this decision now when there really isn't a solid plan in place that would explain how we are going to deal with the consequences? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, as I indicated in this House, a decision has been made to relocate TTC to Hay River. It's going to be a process that is going to take some time. There are some renovations to be done. We will come forward in the business planning process with the details

of the move. I have also committed in the next day or two to provide this House, the chair of the Social Programs committee and her colleagues, with information that got us to this point. That is the process and this is going to take some time. The business plan is where we intend to come forward with the transitional steps we are working on at present. Thank you.