This is page numbers 1655 to 1688 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was summary.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
In regard to this site that was located, I know there’s going to be a request for a cost to clean up the old Arctic College site. There again, there was a request for proposal. There were no takers.
There is also concern in regard to environmental contamination. Has a study been done on the environmental contamination on the site to be remediated for this building to be built?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
Yes, we had an environmental assessment done on the building. The Member may recall when we did the RFP. The original proposal considered having the proponent demolish the building, clean up the site and then provide a leased building for the government. We are going to be doing that. We’re proposing to do that ourselves.
We have an idea of what the assessment is. There was a project in Education, Culture and Employment through the supplemental appropriation that was previously considered by the House a couple of weeks ago and put into ’08–09. So there’s about $3.75 million allocated for the demolition and remediation of that site. There’s a separate project here for Public Works and Services to build an office building on that site.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
In regard to the environmental assessment was there any detection of environmental hazardous contaminants such as lead paint or any other types of hazardous products that are in the existing facility that’s being retrofitted?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
I have not read the assessment myself, but given the age of the building, I’m pretty certain that there’ll be lead paint and asbestos in that building.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Can the deputy minister tell me what the government’s plans are to dispose of these hazardous materials that are in that facility? There is a cost in regard to disposal. Has the cost to remediate this site been taken into consideration?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
Yes, the total cost of the demolition and remediation of that site is in the allocation I spoke of earlier. It’s in the $3.75 million range. We will have to dispose of those hazardous materials in accordance with the regulations everybody must follow when disposing of hazardous materials.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
As we all know, the Gwich’in have an MOU with the Government of the Northwest Territories in regard to contracts. There’s presently a major capital project being constructed in Inuvik, yet a lot of the Gwich’in companies have not been able to take advantage of that contract.
I’d like to know, in regard to the Gwich’in MOU, will the Gwich’in have an opportunity to look at the possibility of taking on some of this work under that MOU we have, to allow them the opportunity to bid on this work and also through a negotiated contracting policy?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The opportunity is there within the MOU for the Gwich’in to request that involvement.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For this project that’s being proposed, how long has this project been in the capital plan?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is the first year that this project has been in the capital plan. If the Member recalls, we did ask for $500,000 that was allocated to this project in ’08–09 to be accelerated into ’08–09. This is really the first time that the standing committee or this House would have seen this project in the plan.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
So this is something that came up as a need as a result of a structural failure in a different Inuvik building that was being leased then, and that’s what brought this about. How many square feet were being leased versus how much is being created now in the government’s inventory here for lease?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
I don’t have that information with me today, but I’d be happy to provide it to the Member and the committee.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you. Have any negotiations or contracts been entered into for this project to date?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Aumond
No.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Does the Minister or the deputy minister anticipate that there’s going to be a negotiated contract for the construction of this building?
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Aumond
Our intention is to put out a request for proposals for a design/build approach. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
For the record, that will be a competitive process for this piece of infrastructure. We keep saying: well, this project’s too big to put out to a competitive bidding process. This is one that I would imagine would be of a size that there could potentially be construction companies that could manage the bonding, and they would have capacity to deal with this.
I guess what I’m getting at is I’m just worried about losing track of what the market rates actually are if we do not continue as a government to try and procure capital through a competitive bidding process. I just want to confirm that…. Well, let me ask this: why is it going to RFP versus tender?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Aumond
We’re using a design/build approach, which would necessitate an RFP versus a tender. We’re leaving it up to the contractor or the private sector to determine and give us some ideas about how they would approach the project to see if we can get some innovation in the solution that way rather than specifically stating what we want and how we want it to be done, which we would do through our traditional construction contract. It’s just a different way to achieve the same thing. It’s just a different approach, but it’s the design/build approach. Rather than splitting the design and the construction up, this will combine it and see what proposals the private sector can offer us.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Just in terms of the RFP I’d like to know if the RFP has already been drafted and the terms of the RFP. I would like to know if any points will be awarded for a building that would be modern in terms of energy efficiencies.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Aumond
No, the RFP has not been drafted. The answer to the second question is that the design criteria will be the GNWT design criteria with respect to energy management and energy efficiency, as we put a high priority on that. It won’t necessarily be an option; it will be a requirement, a minimum requirement that everybody will have to meet, and if you do well, then you’ll score better.
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
I would like to know if that is a standard policy of this government now when going to the private sector for design/build or for construction design. With any kind of infrastructure that we are building in the government, is it now mandatory to have an element of energy efficiency built into those projects — a solid policy?
Tabled Document 93-16(2) NWT Capital Estimates 2009–2010
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Aumond
Our design criteria, Good Building Practice for Northern Facilities, has minimum standards for energy efficiency that generally will exceed the eco standard that the federal government puts out. For all our new construction we have the standard that has to be met or exceeded.
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