This is page numbers 1375 - 1414 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was road.

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Shipping And Postal Rates In The Deh Cho
Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. People of the North and other rural and remote communities have long relied on mail orders to get necessities

like clothing or furniture that are so readily available in cities down south.

Programs like Food Mail have helped quite a bit, but we need to look at ways to generally reduce shipping costs to northern communities. On-line services have made goods even more available in remote communities, where people can buy things they would never have known about in the days of the mail order catalogue. However, shipping costs can easily double the price of these items, making them totally unaffordable. Many automated systems fly XOE postal code as isolated. As a result, some retailers are unwilling to ship to the Northwest Territories even if a community is on the highway system.

We pay more for freight than any other areas of Canada, and we have less service from the rest of Canada. Delivery takes longer. Postal rates continue to climb. Remember when it only cost 30 cents to send a letter or a birthday card? Now it is 51 cents just between Fort Providence and Yellowknife or anywhere else in Canada. If you are sending something to the States or overseas or anything bigger than 30 grams, you will pay more than a dollar. Parcels are even worse. I looked into sending a large 30 kg package, the maximum size you can send from Edmonton to Fort Providence. I paid a base rate of $62.29, fuel and oversize surcharge and tax, for a total of $81.30. If I sent the same parcel with guaranteed delivery via Express or Priority Post it would cost me as much as $218. I could buy a plane ticket to Edmonton for less.

In Fort Providence we are fortunate to be on the road system and people can drive to Yellowknife or cities in the South to purchase furnishings or other goods. Yet trucks go right past Deh Cho communities and we’re still charged additional shipping fees.

As a recent example, to ship two cases of ice back from a remote town in Ontario to anywhere else in Canada costs $40. To send a similar shipment from Fort Providence it will cost a steep $250. Most goods are transported by truck to communities on our road systems and it may be possible to take advantage of shipments going to the towns or the highway systems. We could look at ways to formalize a process with local businesses in trucking or large companies, so that people can take advantage of any extra space.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Shipping And Postal Rates In The Deh Cho
Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

We can look at ways to formalize a process with local businesses and trucking or large companies, so that people can take advantage of extra space or purchase space at a reduced rate to bring items into their communities. This solution does not have to be costly or bureaucratic, but

simply a local service based on helping people in our small communities. Thank you.

Shipping And Postal Rates In The Deh Cho
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Housing Concerns In The Sahtu
Members’ Statements

October 23rd, 2012

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have come a long way since the ‘70s when the federal government, at that time through the Indian agent, told many of my people in the Sahtu that if you move off the land and you move into a community, we will give you a house. We would also have you pay rent of $2 to $5 per month and that would be for a lifetime.

This was told through oral stories through my grandfathers and through the elders that I have talked to within the Sahtu communities and other communities. They say this story is what the federal government told. Today that story has gone out the window with the new rent policy, the threshold, the public housing, and people are having a hard time with the conditions of the houses they have now in our communities.

For example, in Deline they have nine units that are 42 years old and the condition of these units are not kept up to the value that they are paying for their rent. I mean, even if you want to rent a house in Deline, you have to make a certain amount of money. If you don’t, then they will have a hard time even getting into home ownership. If you’re making $8,050, Housing will tell you that you need to go to the bank to mortgage a house to get that house, and sometimes it’s very difficult because of the location.

We’re still waiting for a road into the Sahtu region, so the only time it makes it through is on the winter roads or through the barging system.

The conditions of a house in Deline… There are 101 units, people are having a hard time getting into them, and if they do get into them, there are so many policies. There are so many barriers for them to get into a house, which means that they have to live with their parents or their brothers and sisters and that causes a lot of overcrowding.

I think we need to remove some of these barriers in the Sahtu communities, especially Deline and any other community that would get people into a house. That would help them not deal with such issues as overcrowding, health issues and social issues. We need to make some radical changes and give people back their homes like they used to before the 1970s, where housing was an issue for the federal government to get people off the land. We need to make some changes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Housing Concerns In The Sahtu
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Children’s Health Care Indicators
Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ontario physicians have recently issued a call for higher taxes on junk food and graphic warnings on food with no nutritional value. While I’m sure that they mean well, I don’t think junk food taxes or warning labels get at the real cause of childhood obesity and I would hate to see us go down that road. I personally hope that bags of chips and chocolate bars don’t start to look like those cigarette packages with the scary faces and scenes on them.

Although the message is important, we all know that obesity, of course, directly relates to what children eat and there’s no mystery to that. It is the cornerstone of one of the bigger issues of the problem. In the North the reality is that junk food is far cheaper than healthier food and a tax on junk food won’t close that gap. I ask: Is junk food really the problem or are we fighting the right fight with the right resources? Or are healthy foods so darned expensive that many people in the communities and in the North just can’t afford it? I know that is a contributing factor that is a real factor.

Obesity, as I’m sure the Minister will agree, is one that is closely related to the physical activity that people have, which has been significantly dropping since the invention of video games and access to TV. My house is absolutely no exception to that reality. This discussion got me thinking, of course, with asking ourselves if we are spending too much time on the assumption of anecdotal evidence. But how much time do we spend on gathering true evidence to make fact-based decisions for our programming and future programs in the government? Should we tax or create regulations?

Do we regulate or collect data on children’s indicators such as obesity rates, prevalence of Type II Diabetes, and things like physical activity? What about immunization rates, number of visits to the hospital centres, emergency care rooms, dentist visits, treatment for acute illnesses, prevalence to asthma and allergies? The list goes on. What I’m getting at is the fact that we need regular reporting on children’s health indicators like these that would be an invaluable resource for decision-makers such as ourselves to determine where our scarce and sacred resource programming dollars must go.

What I’m calling for is an annual NWT state of children report that, although it may not be annual in the context of year to year, this government could look closely at producing something every five years. It’s facts and data like this that could help us plan and invest our limited resources. Yes, the other night I went to Mr. Miltenberger’s budget dialogue, but the fact is the Lego was great for visual but we need the facts behind us to know where we need to spend our priorities and focus our attention on resources.

Children’s Health Care Indicators
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Blizzard In Hay River
Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s good to be back in the House today. I don’t often miss a sitting of the Legislative Assembly, but the last three days have been like Groundhog Day for me. It’s the same thing: get up, get ready, get stuck in the driveway, go to the airport, find out that the plane is cancelled, and go home.

It’s unbelievable for you up here in Yellowknife to even think about the condition of the South Slave right now in terms of the snowfall. I, in my 38 years in Hay River, have never seen anything like that. We heard reports of it coming in from north, south, east and west on Saturday, but it was just overcast and very windy, and the lake had the moderating effect of it not turning into anything serious. Monday we had sleet, all day and on top of six inches of slush we got six inches of snow. Of course, it’s a mess and it goes from there.

I would like to recognize and thank all the people who are doing their hardest to keep up with it and keep ahead of it. There have been many, many power bumps and power outages because the lines are all coated with ice and heavy, heavy snow. The people at the runways and airports, the town streets, I mean, everybody is doing their utmost and working around the clock to try and stay ahead of it. When I checked the forecast this morning, it was heavy snowfall warning again for today. It is indeed an unusual circumstance.

I thought since we were talking about fire and flood, I’d tell you about the snow in the South Slave. It hasn’t been in the media so I know you people probably find it really, really hard to believe that it’s that bad, but it is. I hope everybody has it all cleaned up and the planes are flying. I’ll be home tomorrow night.

Blizzard In Hay River
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Return To Oral Question 173-17(3): Finance Costs Related To Nunavut Debt
Returns to Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Dolynny on October 17, 2012, regarding finance costs related to Nunavut debt.

The amount receivable which was over 120 days past due to the Government of the Northwest Territories from the Government of Nunavut was

$890,965.77 in June 2012. The current amount due between 90 and 120 days is $2,262.18, and the amount due over 120 days is $13,034.30.

Return To Oral Question 173-17(3): Finance Costs Related To Nunavut Debt
Returns to Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure to recognize some of the people in the gallery here today on a special event. Mr. Leo-Paul Provencher, executive director of the Federation Franco TeNOise; Mr. Jean-Francois Pitre and Andreanne Laporte, both from Conseil de developpement economique des Territoire Nord-Ouest. Also Benoit Boutin, who is here with us as well. He is the executive director of Francophone Affairs Secretariat. Also Lorne Gushue, who is here with us also from Francophone Affairs Secretariat. I would just like to say welcome and I hope you’re enjoying the proceedings.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a good friend, Heather Coakwell from Hay River and one of the Coakwells expecting here in the near future a new child. Also my constituency assistant, Myrtle Graham. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a constituent, Mr. Jeff Corradetti.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to recognize my constituency assistant and elder and chief from the Shuhtagot'ine people from Tulita, Mr. David Etchinelle.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Ramsay and I are fighting over a constituent. I would like to recognize Mr. Corradetti. Jeff has recently moved from Mr. Ramsay’s riding to mine, so you get double recognition, Jeff.

I’d also like to say hi to Heather. We should be golfing again without your big belly next summer.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize David Etchinelle, as

well, who is an active Member of the Dehcho First Nation.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the Minister of Education for recognizing two constituents of mine. First, Lorne Gushue, who is a very well-known advocate in the city of Yellowknife and I thank him for joining us here today. And, of course, Benoit Boutin, who provides such exemplary work here in the GNWT. I want to thank him for his generous contribution to our public service.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. I’d like to welcome all visitors here in the public gallery today. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.