This is page numbers 5695 – 5726 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was highway.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It made my day. We’ll see how Cabinet feels about it, but you made by day.

I appreciate the Minister of Finance’s ability to distract the House where we got talking about the Mackenzie Valley Fibre Optic Link. That wasn’t the issue; it was about creating a climate for investment such as infrastructure. So my question really is to be focused in on let’s not talk about oil and gas, let’s not talk about the mining sector or the Mackenzie Valley Fibre Optic Link.

The Minister is quite right; we have declining revenue through corporate taxation, so what is the Minister doing to attract investment from industry to new investment into infrastructure so we can tax it and create opportunities and jobs? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also feel like I’d be chewing everybody’s cabbage twice here if I repeated my long, fulsome answer that I just gave the Member for Sahtu that captures all the pieces that we’re putting in place to promote economic development, create conditions for growth, grow our population. All those things combine to do the things that the Member has asked about and I won’t repeat them in the same detail that I just did. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate that because I’d hate to see the Minister wrong twice, so I’m really glad we got through that.

The Quebec government has worked very hard to create a taxation scheme that develops and accelerates private sector investment in their economy through strategic sectors they’ve targeted, such as industry, manufacturing and data processing hosting. They realize focused tax opportunities create investment.

What is this government doing about creating investment in targeted sectors for growth? Thank you.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We’ve had this discussion now going back and forth. I’ll keep coming back to the investments we’re making in economic infrastructure, the conditions that we want to create for that economic development, to do the same thing the Member wants. If the Member has a specific tax he wants to talk about… Is he talking about a tax rate, not 11.5 but some other number lower, tax holidays as he calls it for some specific sector? Then stand up and give us a number. Thank you.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Why am I the only one that’s trying to do work here to create investment? It’s not my job to come up with the number. He has all the machinery. He has a multi-million dollar department that can come up with the right balance to create investment. I’m saying, I‘ve given the communications sector as an example to stimulate new investment, because if it’s not here you can’t tax it. So, how do we encourage investment? We have a good taxation structure. Sometimes it means tax holidays; sometimes it means those types of concepts.

Will the Minister invest a little time in his job and stop finding excuses not to do it and find a way to get to the bottom line, which is find a way to get investment in the Northwest Territories from top to bottom in every community?

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

From my learned young colleague from Yellowknife Centre, I appreciate his passion sometimes verges on bavardage, but in this case I will respond.

We share the same interests and I put as much time in my job, I would venture to say at least as much time as the Member does.

So, we have laid out the discussion here fully. It’s now getting to where we are being repetitive. We are doing the things we think are necessary to promote economic growth, grow the population. The Member wants some kind of tax holiday. I would like him just to specify what exactly that means when we know our corporate tax rate is 11.5 and the business rate of small business is 4 percent. What specifically is he suggesting that would give us advice to be able to possibly look at? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.Once again, I say to my very senior Member across the way, who probably didn’t hear me for various reasons, I don’t know why, I’m saying let’s create a tax holiday for infrastructure investment that’s new. I gave a targeted sector such as the communications sector a way to help stimulate new growth. I’m not talking about lowering the business tax on any other sector, for any other reason on anything. I’m talking about creating any investment climate, such as a tax holiday.

Quebec can do it. They have the courage to attract new investment. Let’s target sectors that work. We can’t do it all on our budget. Let’s get the private sector in on part on the solution. Thank you.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Once again, we agree. We have the private sector that’s churning out about half of our $3.6 billion GDP. Half of that comes from the diamond mines. We have the private industry hard at work on a P3 process, putting that Fibre Optic Link in that’s going to create

a whole industry, telecommunications, IT-focused industry in Inuvik. It’s going to provide that same advantage to every community down the valley. I believe we’re doing the same thing that the Member is asking us to do, and I appreciate him raising repeatedly the issue of the need to have the conditions for economic development. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Time for oral questions has expired. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Bill 46: Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act
Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

February 19th, 2015

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Monday, February 23, 2015, I will move that Bill 46, Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 46: Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act
Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 38, An Act to Amend the Jury Act; Bill 41, An Act to Amend the Partnership Act; Committee Report 10-17(5), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2013-2014 Annual Report of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories; and Tabled Document 188-17(5), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2015-2016, with Mrs. Groenewegen in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I would like to call Committee of the Whole to order and ask, what is the wish of the committee today? Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We will continue with Tabled Document 188-17(5), continuing with the Department of Transportation and then the Department of Executive. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Is committee agreed?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. I believe we will take a break before we commence with that. Thank you, committee.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, committee. I will call committee back to order. We are on the Department of Transportation reviewing Tabled Document 188-17(5). We will go to the Minister. Do you have witnesses to bring into the House, Minister Beaulieu?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, I do.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Thank you. Minister, could you please start by introducing your witnesses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To my right is Russell Neudorf, deputy minister, Department of Transportation; to my left, Daniel Auger, assistant deputy minister, Department of Transportation; and to my far right, Jim Martin, director of corporate services, Department of Transportation.