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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is not the intention of this motion. As I have said, I laid out the intention of it. Municipal infrastructure is not any of these. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That wasn't my question. Is there anything in law that the Minister can cite that would be used as justification to exclude community governments from being able to request restricted areas? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Ms. Faryna.

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Faryna

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to answer the direct question about whether there is a legal possibility or not, I think that is not the question at hand. There may or may not be a legal possibility to build legislation. The intent of this provision is to patch the gap between a permanent production, permanent land-use tool and the time that it takes to apply for it. That was not something that we felt municipal infrastructure fit within this provision. When you develop legislation, you have to fit within the intent of the provision. We did not build a municipality infrastructure here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. We did hear from the Northwest Territories Association of Communities. Sorry. I just can't recall now whether there was specific requests from the individual community governments for this ability to ask for temporary restricted areas. Were there any conversations like that between the department and community governments in developing the bill? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. During the public engagement session, this wasn't a concern that was raised, but maybe it was possibly raised with the SCEDE's engagement. I am not sure. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I can certainly assure the Minister that it was raised with committee. It is in the committee report. Committee tried to work with the Minister and his staff to reach some kind of resolution, compromise on this, and we were unable to. That is why it is here again before us.

I understand that this section actually deals with written reasons for why restricted areas would be declined and this would insert municipal governments into that process. It is probably not the best place where this fits. The point is that municipal governments just were not accorded the kind of recognition and place in the bill that they could and should have gotten.

Sorry. I am speaking to a motion. I shouldn't have done that. Sorry, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Pardon me. Could you repeat that? Sorry, Mr. O'Reilly.

Committee Motion 220-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Motion to Amend Clause 22 by adding after (7.2), Defeated
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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, I move that that subclause 22(7.1) of Bill 34 be amended by adding "or municipalities" after "governments or organizations." Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order and is being distributed. The motion has been distributed. To the motion. Mr. O'Reilly.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. This would extend the ability to receive written reasons to municipal governments on if the Minister declines to accept a restricted area. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Testart.

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, I think this is a very important section or important change because we have heard this concern from municipalities. For whatever reason, that might have not been the case with the government's early discussions with the public engagement around this, but it is certainly something the committee found. I think it is important that we respond to this in a meaningful way. If we are unable to, if the government can't support this amendment for whatever reason, we still need to find a solution.

I am not going to reflect on the outcome of previous matters, but a number of debates have occurred over motions that have been raised so far. I have yet to hear my colleagues, my friends across the way raise their voices to debate in a parliament, which is imperative to inform the public record on why we are doing this or why we are not doing it. It is a bit disappointing that these motions continue to be raised and are not being given the fullness of debate to understand their contents and understand the positions around it. I hope that can change as we continue on this process. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Question has been called. I will allow the mover to close the debate. Mr. O'Reilly.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Nothing to add. I request a recorded vote. Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

The Member has requested a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Nahendeh.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.