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Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I recognize that this is getting late. Committee tried to work with the Minister to propose a number of changes to this concept of zones to put in some checks, and I think that it is fair to say that most of those were incorporated other than what this motion proposes, which is to provide an opportunity for the public to comment on the creation of zones. That opportunity could actually include even industry, of course, because they are part of the public as well. Whether it is an Indigenous government or the Minister does this on his or her own accord, this would provide an opportunity for the public to comment on zones.

If we are going to go through the trouble of creating these zones, the Minister has already publicly said that part of the expectation is that this is going to encourage development, well, let people weigh in and express a view about that. That's what this is about, affording the public an opportunity to comment on the creation of zones. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Continue, Mr. O'Reilly.

Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I requested a recorded vote. Thank you.

Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you. We're in 2019, we have a very unique circumstances for governance in the Northwest Territories, and we have to continue on the path of reconciliation and respect Indigenous partners. That they have an inherent right to self-government and many of those self-governments have come forward.

In regards to Indigenous governments being involved in the creation of zones, I think that that is important, but at the end of the day, it is the Minister who approves the zone. The Minister is a representative of the public Government of the Northwest Territories for all of the people of the Northwest Territories, and that is his role.

To have an opportunity for the public to comment on the establishment of a zone, which, again, is the Minister's discretion, is not a mandatory decision that is made after an Indigenous government proposes a zone, so I don't think that this impacts the ability of the new special relationships that have been established through zones.

I think that this is important for scrutiny, transparency, and allowing everyone to weigh in, including industry, including civil society, and hold a public representative of government making decisions on behalf of the public government to have those decisions appropriately scrutinized and held to a level of transparency that the public expects in 2019 as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Nakimayak.

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Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like other motions, I think that this is getting into the weeds of some of these clauses, and I think that it is a disrespect to Indigenous governments. Sometimes I am listening to this, and I am hearing that this might be mistaken with the Public Land Act. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it definitely sounds that way.

For the sake of effectiveness and expediency, I think that we need to really get to the point of this, stay on point, and focus on what is here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion. The mover has the right to last reply. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. My job is to actually get into the weeds. That is why I am here. I tried to correct the Minister on this; I'm not disrespecting Indigenous governments. This does not take away from Indigenous governments by any stretch of the imagination. Those rights are already protected in other provisions in the bill. This is about affording the public an opportunity to comment on the establishment of regulations that would establish zones. The Minister doesn't even have to listen to whatever the public says. I could say something about how that has played out in the context of this public consultation around this bill, but there is nothing in here that is disrespectful of Indigenous governments by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. The Member has requested a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

Recorded Vote
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August 20th, 2019

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Nahendeh.

Recorded Vote
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The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.

Recorded Vote
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August 21st

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Nunakput, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Mackenzie Delta, and the Member for Sahtu.

Recorded Vote
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August 21st

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those abstaining, please rise.

Recorded Vote
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August 21st

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Yellowknife Centre.