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Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Hay River South.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And with respect to I guess costing this project, do we have a preliminary cost, and are we -- and if we do, are we updating that as, yeah, I guess prices and availability of material becoming a problem? Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. So we did publicly announce a $60 million project for this, and it's under the ICIP program. So that was announced in 2021. Having said that, we do need to look as we go through some of the process of the planning, the environmental, submitting and preparing our permits, that we have to review costs and, you know, we've done that through infrastructure. With a lot of our projects we're finding, you know, get an announcement, and then we look at a project, we review the costs. So, I mean, it is something that perhaps it might not be $60 million in a year or two times. So I just want to be cognizant of that. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I'm pleased to hear it might not be 60; it could be 40. Or will it be more like the windmill up in the Delta?

So anyways, I just want to move on here to Fort Simpson. And I -- and just looking at that, the relocation of the diesel plant and then the setting up the LNG plant, they're both slated for completion at the same time. I guess I'm trying to figure out is one of those plants going to be a backup and one kind of running main power, or what's going on there? Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Member is right, we are looking at the diesel plant relocation and also the liquefied natural gas. We are still scoping out. If I can have Mr. Jenkins speak a little bit more about the plans. Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Jenkins.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Jenkins

Thank you, Madam Chair. So we are still sort of looking at the combining of those projects but of course we're cognizant that you want to have a primary source of power and you want to have a backup source of power. So, you know, the project details itself, we were looking to convert -- move from diesel more to gas. A part of that is reducing our emissions, of course, and so -- but as we move forward here with combining these two, the power plant and the LNG, we're going to be cognizant of making sure there's primary and backup sources of power. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. With respect to moving, I guess relocating the diesel plant, will all the equipment be relocated, or will there be some major upgrades to it while, you know, this process goes on because I guess it makes sense to me that if there's any major changes that have to be made, any new equipment has to be put in, now's the time. Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. So right now we're looking at, and, you know, there will be an assessment done as well, but the LNG is new. We are looking at the relocation of the existing diesel power plant to higher ground, as we mentioned, to be eliminating the possibility of power in the community due to future flooding events. So that's where we're at right now. If Mr. Jenkins wants to add anything further. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Jenkins

Thank you, Madam Chair. So as the Minister mentioned, LNG is something new in the community, so there're new components there, of course. With the existing diesel infrastructure that is in the community, there had to be an assessment of whether there's a need to modernize that equipment. Is now the best time to do it? Is some of the equipment we have acceptable moving forward or not? Those are all things to be covered under the assessment as we scope out this project and pursue federal funding. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to go to the line diesel power plant, Infrastructure, territorial. Can the Minister just, I guess, provide me some insight into, you know, how many plants -- or, yeah, how many plants we're looking at and communities as well. Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. So the project, the overview, the project will support NTPC in its ongoing upgrades to its diesel power plant. So there's about 26 which will focus mostly on diesel engine replacements.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know, I look at this and I see diesel, and we talk about greenhouse gases and that. Has there been any thought, I guess, into looking at an alternate source, I guess, of fuel to -- for some of these, you know, smaller communities? Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, so, you know, you look at some of the projects here in the territory, and it's quite diverse. We have diesel. We have -- starting a wind project. We've got hydro. We've got a number of energy projects. So installing some of these new engines, we'll be able to replace the reliability of the plants, provide for some of the increased fuel efficiency, lower our greenhouse gas emissions. So, I mean, these are a number of things that we are doing and recognizing that the Northwest Territories is quite vast and geologically spaced so we do have a number of struggles and challenges that we have to heat our communities. If I can get Mr. Jenkins to speak a little further on that. Thanks.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Jenkins.