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Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I guess, you know, when we look at the traffic corridor, you know, traffic coming in from the south, heavy trucks, we're looking at Highway No. 1, and then if it's barge traffic, it's coming in to Hay River and, you know, we have quite a few corners there, we have no shoulders. So is there anything, I guess, in the works to look at maybe road straightening as well as road widening on either -- well, I guess from the border all the way into Hay River? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm going to ask Mr. Moore if he can speak a little --

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. ADM Moore.

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Moore

Thank you, Madam Chair. Most definitely, Highway No. 1, we are looking at from near the border up to Hay River. We've examined that highway very closely. As the deputy mentioned, we are prioritizing our dollars to the areas of greatest need, which in the case of Highway No. 2, for example, would be from Kilometre Zero to 42, with the work being planned for the summer of 2023. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

No further questions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Are there any further questions? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I'll start with some comments that I find the capital plan estimates to be one of the unworkable documents ever, and I get that first and foremost it is a Finance document, not an Infrastructure document. But as an example, we require every municipality to have asset management plans -- we are trying to get them all to have asset management plans. And they're great documents. They tell you the total replacement cost of every single asset they own. They kind of give you a timeline for construction. And I know the department has a lot of stuff in-house. You know, obviously we know some information about deferred maintenance and we have some long-term capital planning, but none of that is public. The only public thing we have is this document that doesn't tell you the price of any project, doesn't tell you the timeline for construction, doesn't tell you whether it's on budget, doesn't tell you what we're planning to do beyond a specific fiscal. So I'm just wondering if the department has any plans to create some sort of asset management plan for the GNWT? Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I think the Member will be happy to know that, yes, we are looking at something a little more transparent, and it's going to be called the dashboard. We are working on it now. Hopefully get it online by the fall. So I think that's great news. It'll be out in the public like the Member's asked. Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Well, I feel like I don't have any more questions other than waiting to see this dashboard. I'm very, very excited about that. I guess -- well, I'm going to ask some questions about this potential dashboard.

I know that a lot of jurisdictions publish a five-year capital plan where it kind of breaks down what's being spent over five years and the year to year amount and kind of what's in the future. We don't presently do that. We don't presently even say how much we're spending in an individual year. Is that the kind of information I could expect in this dashboard? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, you know, there's a lot of work that's being put into this to get it off the ground in the fall. But further to that, I'm just going to have Mr. Moore speak a little more detail as he's looking after the project. So I will give him the opportunity to be able to share with the committee on some of the great work that's happening. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. ADM Moore.

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Moore

Thank you, Madam Chair. As the Minister mentioned, there's a lot of moving parts to this. We have a lot of great systems that track the asset conditions of different assets. For example, we track bridges and bridge conditions. We also track vertical infrastructure. And you're they're using different systems in different ways and different metrics. And so putting that all together into one dashboard is a complex process. Our plan is, by the fall of 2023, to have a public dashboard which demonstrates the status of our assets that folks can see over time. But we're still working through the details on that, Madam Chair. So more to come. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you. I'm happy to hear that. I guess I believe that dashboard will address a lot of the concerns I have about, you know, trying to find some public information on asset management planning, deferred maintenance, kind of where we're at with that money. But I'm not sure it'll necessarily address the other concern I have which is that there's a fear that if we publicly state the cost of any project before tender in this House it's going to obstruct the tendering process. So the document I'm looking at right now doesn't tell us the cost of anything we are voting on. And I'm just wondering if the department has any intention to make some of that more public. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the Member's correct; I mean, we don't share detail about some of our tendering process in any of our projects. But, I mean, we would be able to share what we can publicly so it just doesn't skew the whole mess -- the information that we provide publicly. So I want to make sure that we share what we can so that people can just have a look at that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. And I think where I find this especially frustrating is sometimes it's public. The Minister released a news release saying the Frank Channel Bridge cost $50 million, and we got 75 dollars from ICIP, and then, you know, that happens, and now I look at that -- you know, I heard the Minister say that, you know, we're going through this process and we're going to work with Tlicho, but it's not now clear to me whether that $50 million is a true number and whether we're actually going to be higher. So, you know, I think once it's definitely some sort of public announcement is made, making sure that we keep track of that, would be very helpful. So I guess another way, do we have an updated cost of the Frank Channel Bridge beyond -- is it more than $50 million which was already announced? Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.