Thank you, Member from the Sahtu. To the motion. Member from Yellowknife Centre.
Debates of March 5th, 2026
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Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will support the motion. I am not suggesting by any ways that this should be a liquidation sale. But, I mean, some of these assets, to be frank, Mr. Speaker -- and you know this because you have communities that have challenges as well, you know, whether it's all the way up to Tsiigehtchic or Lutselk'e, the fact that some of these public housing units are troublesome and problematic and people want them, and if we need to get rid of them and they still want them, we should get them off the books. But I would also say, to be truthful, is be careful what you wish for too and -- because for those folks -- now this sounds counterintuitive to the motion. But keep this in mind, that if you now take control of the House, you're taking control of the House. And like my colleague from Range Lake, I think he was spot on, people want equity, they want confidence that they can make changes in their own houses, you know. I mean, in theory, public housing, you can't change the colour without permission, you know. Like, you can't change the siding and all of that. Like, there's a process. But when you have ownership -- and that's something I've seen quite a bit, is that when you have ownership of something like this -- so whether you're in Fort Providence or you're certainly in McPherson, you have different types of pride when you start taking care of your House or worry about your House. And I think it speaks to the health of the community that when you feel that it is your House, that you own your House, I think it'll inspire a lot of people to do some really good. So at the end of the day, if we've got to get this housing Minister on an auction block out there auctioning off the houses, you know, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. And I think that anybody who wants to own their house, we must find a path for them to do that. And if it costs a little money, well, you know what? Let's give them a chance and an opportunity that in most cases they can't. I mean, I think, again, as my colleague from Range Lake pointed out the differences between a Yellowknife solution and a Toronto solution, I mean, you can't go to a typical bank and just go to say, I want a mortgage in Wrigley, or I want a mortgage in Lutselk'e or -- you know, it's such a challenging endeavour. So how do you get a house there? How do you get your House there? You have to have deep pockets. And even that comes with a risk.
So, Mr. Speaker, in short, I am supporting this motion. I appreciate the intent it's offered. And I often say that, you know, hey, if we can make people's lives easier, this is definitely one, and if we can inspire ownership, I think that's a good thing too. Thank you very much.
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. To the motion. Member from Dehcho.
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too will be supporting the motion. I spoke to the Member that brought the motion forward and talked about homeownership and how important it is and how when you own your own home, like my colleague said, that you have a sense of pride, a sense of pride of taking care of your own home. You feel independent. You're independent from a system that keeps you stuck in a system. So you become a homeowner, you become -- you have pride. You can do what you need to do. And you can fix up your House and do whatever you want to do.
And just to know that you have a home for your family, a roof over your head that you can call home, this is very -- it's very near and dear to me and a lot of people that I know that are living in market rental units that want to own the homes. So I was thinking, you know, get those houses off the books to make room for new stock.
So for that reason, I am going to -- that reason and all the reasons that my colleagues are talking about, I am going to be supporting the motion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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The Speaker Shane Thompson
Question has been called. Member from Monfwi, do you wish to conclude debate?
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to say thank you to everybody here, those who spoke and those who did not, you know, speak in favour of the motion but still I know deep down in their heart that they do feel the same way as we do. You know, at the moment, public housing units -- Housing NWT are transferring public housing units to tenants who have lived in those units for many years, where they raised their family and for over 20 years. But it's not the same for market rental unit, so that's why I am pushing for the market rental units to be treated the same as a public housing unit. I have some tenants in my region where family of, you know, over six living in a market rental, they have no choice. There's no market. There's no places where they can go to buy and sell a house. So market rental unit is the only place that they can go that they are eligible for.
And some of these people, they've lived in it for over five years, and they paid over $100,000. Even now the market rental unit rates have increased to $1,950, so that's $23,300 for one year. And I have another family in my region, in Behchoko, that lived in the unit for over 20 years, and they paid over $200,000. So they're asking for these units to be transferred to them. It's not just them. It's in other communities as well, you know. And some of these units are old, and yet they are still -- they're market rental. I even have an elder that is living in a market rental unit in Behchoko. It's a run-down trailer, and she's paying over $1,500 a month. I mean -- because there's no housing. There's no place for her to go, and -- or there's no social housing for her to accommodate her. So she is paying -- living on, you know, an income, and paying over $1,500 is unacceptable. So that's why I am urging and hoping that -- I want the Minister of -- Housing NWT Minister to look into this policy, maybe change the policy, and make it -- like, treat it the same as a public housing unit transfer as a homeowner. Thank you. And I would ask for recorded vote.
Motion 74-20(1): Transfer of Housing Northwest Territories Market Rental Units to Tenants
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The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you. Member from Monfwi has asked for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please stand.
Recorded Vote
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Harjot Sidhu
The Member from Monfwi. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Mackenzie Delta. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. The Member for Dehcho. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Yellowknife Centre. The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Book Lake.
Recorded Vote
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Recorded Vote
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Harjot Sidhu
The Member for Thebacha. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Kam Lake. The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Nunakput.
Recorded Vote
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The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, colleagues. The recorded vote, 11 in favour, zero opposed, seven abstaining. The motion is passed.
---Carried
Motions. Returns to oral questions. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member from Yellowknife Centre.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
Oral Questions
Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement, which feels so long ago, I was talking about no fault insurance and, of course, the impacts and opportunities we have here. So I am going to ask the Minister to confirm whether or not her department has any formal analysis on this potential policy review and benefits or even drawbacks of implementing auto insurance in the Northwest Territories, like many other jurisdictions, in a no fault sense. And in case you're curious, that goes to the Minister of Finance.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Insurance Act does live in the Department of Finance. Mr. Speaker, I'd have to look back and see if -- in the course of time prior to my being here, if there had been some analysis done on this. I can say that at the present time this is not under consideration. Thank you.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you. At the present time, not. But the question is, can the department go back and look at what's been done in the past. Have they done any analysis whatsoever? And if so, can the Minister provide this House that information. Thank you.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I say, I will certainly see what's been done. And let's start with that question first. Obviously, at some point, things become stale and out of date so if something was done 20 years ago, I am not sure how useful that would be but we'll see what there is. And in general, providing documents to colleagues on AOC is done under confidentiality and not a matter of concern. Thank you.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Minister of Finance. Final supplementary. Member from Yellowknife Centre.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister herself, as Minister, familiar with no fault insurance and the benefits it avails Northerners, including the difficult challenges in a system that doesn't have it? Thank you.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
Oral Questions
Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am familiar with the concept of no fault insurance and with the time afforded me by some motions here, I was able to Google this and get a bit more information. It does seem that, in fact, there's been some studies done of British Columbia and New Jersey and other states and provinces that have no fault insurance regimes. It is not uniformly considered to necessarily be particularly positive. There are some situations where it actually winds up resulting in higher premiums, as so the studies would say. And where there are concerns that it doesn't actually provide the kind of payouts people want, it places a ceiling on the amount of money that you're able to receive in the event of a serious injury. So it certainly is an option that's out there, but it is certainly not without its own controversy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 1169-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Question 1170-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Kieron Testart Range Lake
Merci, Monsieur le President. So earlier today, which again feels like ages, but good debates, I spoke about College Nordique Francophone which occupies a really unique space in the Northwest Territories. It is an accredited post-secondary institution, and it is the only French language one. And as we know, Canada is a bilingual country, and the federal government has millions, if not billions of dollars, through Heritage Canada to support French language learning and French language speakers.
So my question to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, how is -- or will the Minister provide core funding to stabilize operations at College Nordique Francophone and other post-secondary institutions so we can have a stable training environment for our workforce needs going forward? Thank you.
Question 1170-20(1): No Fault Insurance
Oral Questions
The Speaker Shane Thompson
Thank you, Member from Range Lake. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.
Question 1170-20(1): No Fault Insurance
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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake
Merci beaucoup, Monsieur le President. [Translation] INSERT* [Translation Ends]. So thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I think it's important that I underline the essential role that College Nordique plays in access to quality post-secondary education here in the Northwest Territories.
Mr. Speaker, in previous conversations in this House, I committed to ensuring that College Nordique does have a line item in our budget. Over the last large number of years, education, culture and employment has contributed $200,000 to College Nordique as core funding, and the commitment was made to ensure that that was captured in our budget as a line item so that College Nordique can ensure that they can essentially take that to the bank, being the federal government, and ensure that they can show our commitment to their institution within our budget. Thank you.