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Committee Motion 107-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 19
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

I have a final recommendation. I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Personnel monitor the impact of the new staff housing policy, especially on the affirmative action program; make staff houses available for sale in level II and level III communities at a fair price, taking into account the age and condition of the house; treat the requests for repair or rental adjustments based on substandard or unsuitable units as a top priority, especially in communities with no public housing; assist employees to purchase houses where conventional mortgages are not available; and, review hardship cases also as a top priority. Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Does that conclude your remarks, Mr. Antoine?

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, I apologize, I forgot to read the preamble on page 31 on the staff housing policy. Mr. Chairman, I went straight into the motion. Can I read it?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Yes, Mr. Antoine, please proceed.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, the committee reviewed the proposed changes to the staff housing policy with the Minister in some depth and made some recommendations at the time to improve implementation. We would like to re-affirm the committee's support for the government getting out of staff housing. As a result of expressing our comments and concerns to the Minister, he has made the program more flexible and acceptable to the affected staff.

The program revision was not well received because of a lack of consultation and information. The Department of Personnel has to recognize that they have a responsibility to treat government employees with consideration. It would be a shame to lose good people due to the mishandling of an otherwise good policy. We have already dealt with the motion, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, I will conclude. In light of continuing concerns and questions from the employees about the methods by which the new policy will be implemented, the committee further recommends that the implementation plan for the new staff housing policy be amongst the first orders of business for thorough discussion in committee of the whole. That concludes the presentation from the Standing Committee on Finance. Mahsi.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Are there any general comments? Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, I would like to invite witnesses in.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. The Sergeant-at-Arms will assist the witnesses in.

Are there any general comments? Mr. Kakfwi, for the record can you please introduce your witnesses.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, the deputy minister of Personnel, Mr. Ken Lovely and Mr. Stewart McNabb, the director of finance and administration.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Welcome gentlemen. Are there any general comments? If there are no general comments are we ready for detail? Mr. Gargan, general comments.

General Comments

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one question. I made a Member's statement regarding the situation in Cambridge Bay. Our former colleague, Ernie Bernhardt, was not there, however, I questioned the whole hiring practices of the region. Many aboriginal people who work in Cambridge Bay felt they were not being treated fairly with regard to certain practices. The head office was hiring relatives and this sort of thing. It seemed that the people were not being treated fairly. This is the only question I have. Has the situation been resolved? I also realize that Tony Villebrun the person who headed up this whole thing has now been transferred here. Has the issue been resolved?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

There was some correspondence circulated to Members of the Legislature charging racial discrimination in the Kitikmeot region a few months ago. We responded by setting up an investigation committee. During the week of December 7, we sent in a team of people to Cambridge Bay to conduct an investigation. The report on this finding was issued to Personnel and the Department of Government Services and Public Works on January 12. The investigation committee concluded that there was no evidence presented by the witnesses to indicate any overt racial discrimination on the part of the current management of the Department of Government Services and Public Works in the Kitikmeot region. However, the committee felt that there were certain management processes and practices that were perceived by native employees to be detrimental to their employment training and promotional opportunities. The committee made some recommendations to the departments.

In response to one employee in Cambridge Bay, we have made an offer to have a transfer. If the employee was interested and willing to take a transfer to Yellowknife, we would make proper arrangements to ensure the individual took such an opening at the first opportunity made available. We have set up an affirmative action seminar for the Kitikmeot region in early March. We have continued to monitor the conduct of management in the departments following the recommendations made by the committee. We will, for instance, conduct an operational review of the current management practices in the Kitikmeot as that was recommended. We have tried to do some positive follow-up to the allegations that were made, to ensure, while there was no evidence of over racial discrimination, in response to aboriginal employees' perception, that everything possible is done to ensure that those possible bases for aboriginal employees would be alleviated.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Are there general comments? Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe there is also an appeal process. Are the aboriginal employees aware of the process with regard to promotions and applying for certain managerial positions or positions of responsibility within this government? My concern would be whether or not we are allowing regional or district managers to get away with the way they do their hiring or hiring practices. I do not want the communities to perceive that we are still hiring people from out of town or who are good friends with the district manager perhaps. I would encourage the Minister to keep a sharp eye with regard to what is happening in the field. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Member for Deh Cho. Are there general comments? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I made most of my general comments within the Standing Committee on Finance. In respect to the UNW coming up for negotiations, I believe it is next year, has the Minister considered taking the portion of his department that does the negotiations and somehow amalgamating it with the Department of Finance to ensure that, whatever negotiated items they are looking at, they will look at the overall financial implications this government has to absorb? Has there been any consideration for that consolidation? Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, the government has been looking at this idea for some time. We are still looking at this suggestion, that the negotiations for the collective agreement be handled through a group that would work out of Finance. It would combine the section of the Department of Personnel that deals with collective agreements.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Member for Thebacha.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, there is some discussion going on, on this side with my other colleagues. I could not quite hear. Has he indicated that there would be consideration for this to go in conjunction with the Finance department?