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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Premier's Sessional Statement, the Premier talked about the strategies and goals of this government and where we have come from starting off in November when we sat first as a Legislature up until the present time. I just have a general comment on some of the strategies that we have taken and some of the ones we will be taking based on the sessional speech. Those include some of the detrimental ones we have seen to be doing, but I guess we have no other choice in these fiscally hard times.

However, I would like to say again that I would like to see some type of a job strategy in place to bring employment opportunities to northerners. I would also like to see a plan in place to look after the needs of the less fortunate that we have been talking about so many different times. This government is not in the position to actually create jobs, but it can create a climate of economic growth which could foster that job growth from the private sector.

I would also like to say the strategy on jobs seems to be based on the BHP mines taking off or the mineral sector. In our region, we do not have much potential for mines so I think we should look at other areas of job creation of helping foster the private sector like some of the work that the Investment Sub-Committee did on the Immigrant Investors Program or something similar where we can bring in those extra dollars to create the climate for economic development which will get northerners back to work. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the Premier going to respond to Mr. Picco? I will defer.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The Honourable Premier, you can respond to Mr. Picco. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I agree with everything Mr. Picco said. But in seriousness, the Inuit Employment Plan the Minister of Education talked about today, that is part of it as well as Nunavut Unified Human Resource Development Strategy. Also, the federal government has committed $39.8 million to the strategy for the next four years. Our government will invest $101.4 million in education and training activities in Nunavut alone, and $1.6 million on planning and training initiatives. This year, the Department of Education, as well, is preparing a labour force development plan which is one of the six strategies developed to ensure the economic priorities set out in the 13th Assembly agenda for change are achieved. The goal of the plan is to strengthen to capacity the northern workforce to meet the demands of the labour market and to guarantee employment opportunities for northerners.

A draft of the Labour Force Development Plan has been completed and will be finalized by the end of October this year, Mr. Chairman. So we are putting things together. It is just a matter of bringing them all together in the one document, I guess, to present. So it is work that is ongoing and it will continue. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Member for Thebacha.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to make a few brief comments as well. The key

issue of how we are doing business and trying to let people know what we have done, where we have been and where we are going is the whole issue of communication. We have talked about that in Caucus and around this Hall or this Assembly. I think it is critical that we have to get better than that. We have done a lot of good things, but people do not necessarily know that. We also have to show people as we have promised them that we would do a report card and basically an assessment of where we have been in relation to the priorities we set. I think it is critical as well that we have to learn from our mistakes as we move ahead with another proposed major amalgamation in terms of dealing with our employees since they are the engine that drives the government and carries on all the work in the fine programs that we set up.

As the Member from Iqaluit said, it is important, and I think we all share the same concern, that we start look to broadening our economic base which I think we are making all the rights moves to do that. We just have to set that our very clearly for the people and not only rely on the mega projects but a lot of the community development issues throughout the community empowerment. I would encourage the Premier with this communication strategy that we have been talking about and look forward to seeing the finished document when it comes out. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. There was no question about some directions from the honourable Member to the Premier. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I agree with Mr. Miltenberger that we have to communicate and we have to make sure that our good messages are getting out because, guaranteed, any bad messages the press will make sure they get out for us and so will the union. We all know that. So we are doing a lot of good things as a government and we have a lot of opportunity open to us yet. We do have a billion dollars. That is enough dollars to do some good in the Northwest Territories.

As far as the communication plan that is coming, we have worked on it since last year and then there was a change in staff so that stuff was put on hold. Basically, what we have to do -- and it includes all 24 of us -- is send out as much letters as we want because I have signed thousands of those letters. We can send out pamphlets -- and we have sent those out -- and we can sent out information to people in written form to communities. I know that Members to go their regional meetings and Members go to their community meetings and as well as our Assemblies during the summer and continue to tell people what the government is doing. The message still does not seem to be getting through so we are going to have to do more. Actually, Roy Romanow, Premier of Saskatchewan, told me to roll up our sleeves and go into our communities to actually explain and have charts and stuff that we can use so that people fully understand what we are doing, why we are doing it, and what good things we are doing as well.

With that, I look forward to working with Members on that issue. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the Minister's statement, he talks about being basically on track and meeting our budget targets. Are you saying we will not have any overexpenditures in the different envelopes and that we basically will not have any other expenditures relating to costs of projects or basically coming forth with supplementary appropriation dollars this year to carry us through? In your statement, you said we are on track to meet our budget targets for this current year. Are you saying that basically we will not end up with any over-expenditures and that we will end up with a surplus?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We will never end up with a

surplus this year for the simple reason we are in a deficit to begin with and while we are trying to do is minimize that deficit, we as Members of the Assembly set out a fiscal recovery plan and we are sticking to that, and we are on target. There will be some cost overruns in some of the social envelope departments. That is my understanding, but that does not mean that will change our targets. It means that we have to shift some money around.

That is what it means, and we do not have any new money to draw on so we have to continue the stated course, and my understanding from the Minister of Finance is that, and he gave a statement in the House, yesterday, I believe, basically to say that we are on target and we will meet our target of the deficit or a certain dollar this year and then balanced budget for the next year. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

General comments to the statement. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

In regards to being on track with what we have seen in the last week, there are no projects that have sort of popped up in regards to the budget reviews and also monies that were allocated in way of new projects and those were not budgeted in the overall capital expenditures and the budget was approved in the spring, so, have those dollars been taken into account, which there may be overruns in the area of, say, transportation, where in case we have a bad winter season in regards to roads being closed, and what not.

To maintain those might, the cost of maintaining highways, maybe it would be a lot higher than what we think in regards to what we budgeted for. Because monies that could have been used down the road in case of emergency crisis, may not be there, so we may end of with the additional of having to find other revenues to carry us through this winter. Is that taken into account the budget review because of the new projects that have been identified.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, in the Department of Transportation budget my understanding there was transfers of items from one capital project to another capital project still under the capital budget and they are still within their budget. As well as MACA there was a direct line transfer from community access road in Simpson to that community building in Fort Simpson, but that does not affect our targets at all. As far as winter road maintenance, the Department of Transportation has the capability of estimating the cost of removal of snow from roads and they go on long term figures and a formula and we have enough people there that are capable of doing that job so they should estimate fairly accurately. I cannot remember of any cost overruns of winter roads before, with snow removal. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

General comment, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can you guaranteed this House that there would not be any cost overruns in any department, for any revenues that are carried between those different portfolios.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No I would not be that foolish to do that. I cannot foretell the future and there may be changes in dollars spent from one department to the other and we will have to make the adjusts accordingly. Same as fighting forest fires. We cut that back two years ago from 28 million, I think, to cap at 13 million. Since then we have been fighting fire at that cost. This year we managed to save a million dollars, I believe, or some amount of money, not a bit, because we were lucky enough to have rain. My understanding is by having all the rain we have to spend a little bit of extra on maintaining some of our gravel roads because the rain washed some of them out. So, you are going to get money moving around like that. I

cannot guarantee, or no one can guarantee that there would be no cost overruns.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Any further general comments. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Used the example of a million dollar savings in the Forestry budget, has that million dollars been put back into the overall general fund, or else has it been put into bringing down the deficit, and basically, to pay off the million dollar deficit that we have.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Like I said it is around a million dollars, I believe I have heard that figure, but I have never seen that exact figure. The way it works is that you draw down money. Not every department has it's own bank account. We have one bank account for the Government. We all draw down on it, and, if they did save a million dollars, then it would be a million less that they would be writing cheques on, borrowing basically, because we borrow, we are borrowing money, and so, I do not really know how to answer the Member's question other than, that is the way it works. I do not know the exact amount.