This is page numbers 1041 - 1092 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

Minister's Statement 105-13(3): Training Initiatives In Preparation For Nunavut
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you Mr. Speaker, honourable Members.

On September 25th, I announced the release of the Nunavut Unified Human Resources Development Strategy, in conjunction with the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and the President of Nunavut Tunngavik.

The strategy stems from the work of a group chaired by the Nunavut Implementation Commission, with the participation of the Nunavut Implementation Training Committee, the Government of Canada, the Government of the NWT and Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated.

The strategy identifies new initiatives and builds on existing training programs. As the plan unfolds over the next four years, there will be many new opportunities for Inuit to train for jobs in the Nunavut government, land claims organizations and the private sector.

The federal government is investing $39.8 million into the strategy during the next four years. This government will invest $101.4 million in education and training activities in Nunavut in 1996/97, and the Nunavut Implementation Training Committee will spend $1.6 million on planning and training initiatives this year.

Mr. Speaker, the development of a representative workforce in Nunavut will be important for the new Territory's success. I am confident that the territorial government's Inuit Employment Plans and the Nunavut Unified Human Resources Development Strategy will help us reach that goal.

Thank you Mr. Speaker.

Minister's Statement 105-13(3): Training Initiatives In Preparation For Nunavut
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Ministers' Statements is now over. Members' Statement, Ms. Groenewegen.

Concerns About Northwestel Service Delivery
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you Mr. Speaker. The telecommunications industry has undergone dramatic changes in the last twenty years. Opening up the market to competition has resulted in many benefits to telephone users everywhere in North America except in the Northwest

Territories.

Because telephone service provided by NorthwesTel in the NWT is still a monopoly, we in the North are not able to enjoy the benefits of competition, such as the timely offering of new services, new technology, and lower long distances rates.

In the meantime, we still have to put up with lousy service, to address billing concerns, to ask for changes in service, and to request new services.

I do not think anyone has a problem in a change of service point, ie. location, but do have a problem with lowering service levels to the point where customers have to wait for service for up to two hours on hold.

Through the 1-811 number, we have lost the benefit of local personalized offices and community level jobs.

This is 1996 and we still have substandard quality of service between communities, as close as Hay River and Fort Smith. We have incompatible technologies between the North and the South.

While I recognize the rationale behind NorthwesTel taking over the telephone service in Nunavut, I am at a loss to understand why long distance rates have not been rebalanced. Nunavut benefitted from being part of the large Bell network before the takeover, and economies of scale meant that Nunavut came into lower long distance rates. But now that we are all part of the same larger network, it is completely unacceptable for my constituents in Hay River to pay 96 cents per minute to call Vancouver when residents of Iqaluit calling from two and a half times the distance only pay 48 cents.

Opening the long distance market to competition would fix this situation in a big hurry. I believe the people of the North can only benefit from opening up the telephone market here to competition. This Government is NorthwesTel's largest customer, so if the Government exerts its influence on NorthwesTel, and with CRTC, I believe that we can see the benefits of competition in the telephone market and have them finally come to Northerners. Thank you.

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Concerns About Northwestel Service Delivery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' Statements, Mr. Ningark.

Anticipated Absence From The House
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to inform this House as a courtesy on Tuesday, October 15 and 16, I will be absent from the House to attend the Inuit Association in Gjoa Haven. Thank you.

Anticipated Absence From The House
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Members' Statements, Mr. Evaloarjuk.

Appreciation To The Minister Of Education, Culture And Employment
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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to thank the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment for releasing ... And it is in regards to one of my constituent's requests. I do believe that they have contributed money for one of my constituents from Pond Inlet. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

Appreciation To The Minister Of Education, Culture And Employment
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' Statements, Mr. Barnabas.

Need To Replace Arctic Bay Community Freezer
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Time and again my colleagues have brought forward examples of failure by the Government to provide support and assistance at the community level,

where the bulk of residents in the NWT still live. Mr. Speaker, the community of Arctic Bay has been identifying problems with the community freezer for years. It is the last of the group of very old freezers in our region. All the others have been replaced and it has been breaking down repeatedly in the last year. I have raised this issue with the Honourable Minister of Public Works and Services. Mr. Speaker, there are central problems illustrated by this case, critical community facility, one that is essential to safe food storage of country food, has been allowed to fail. These units are originally supplied by the Government to assist the communities, then the responsibility for the units was transferred over to the community organizations. But clearly, there are no freezer technicians in any of the small communities in the NWT. Our people are still dependent on the Government staff to maintain this equipment. When this equipment started to fail repeatedly, the local technicians have tried their best to make the repairs that they can, and the group has worked with great care to maintain the freezer properly. The repairs were finally carried out and the community was presented with a bill over $24,000 and the incorrect and rudely worded suggestion that the problems were all the fault of the community people. Mr. Speaker, we all have examples of this sort of treatment of the community level by Government staff. I am particularly concerned that this way of doing business has continued for many years. I have seen in this example a model of how community empowerment could fail us all if it started without the support of the communities. Mr. Speaker, I seek for unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Need To Replace Arctic Bay Community Freezer
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for the High Arctic is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude his statement. Mr. Barnabas.

Need To Replace Arctic Bay Community Freezer
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the old pattern could be repeated. Set up a program and dump on the communities without the resources and training. Then blame the communities when things go wrong. Then take all the credit for cutting the deficit at the same time. Mr. Speaker, I encourage all the Members of this House to remember their own communities, their willingness to control their own future, and their request for support and resources, as we head towards the parliament of our people in the communities. Mr. Speaker, I will have some oral questions later today for the Minister of Public Works and Services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Need To Replace Arctic Bay Community Freezer
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas. Member's Statement, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Picco.

Member's Performances In The Legislature
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past week and a half this House has had more debate than we have had in the first nine months of this Government. At times it has been heated. Mr. Speaker, the debates have shown the public that we are working and grappling with continued cuts and downsizing. This type of debate is healthy as long as it stays on the topic and does not get personal.

You cannot expect twenty-four people to agree on every item, or issue. Constituency concerns may take precedence over House concerns and visa versa. So be it. In some circles being consistent on every issues seems to be the utmost of importance, but being consistent on every aspect, or program, or issue, only demonstrates rigidity and the belief in the infallibility of a decision or stance.

Maybe the forward collective believes in consistency, but that does not make it right. A Member first and foremost has the legislative right to vote on any issue, any way they choose. Not voting with a majority in a consensus government style, like this House, could and sometimes does ostracize a Member.

I think it is important to remember other aspects of a Member's work in this House. Are they present for all the meetings? Do they keep up with all the committee issues? Do they ask informed questions? Are they habitually late or do they come and go from meetings as they feel like it? If a Member asks lots of questions in the House, are the questions judged on their merit, or frequency? Personally I would rather hear five questions from the same Member than one flippant question from another Member.

Over the next several months we will have more heated debate concerning the deficit reduction targets and the strategies of this Government. I look forward to this open debate and I think the public does, and needs to see this in the public forum in this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Performances In The Legislature
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Member's Statement, Mr. O'Brien.

Appreciation For Fire Fighters
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be speaking today about fire fighting, but that of a different nature than what Mr. Picco is referring to. Mr. Speaker, this week has been designated as a time to acknowledge the bravery and dedication of all fire fighters across the country. Mr. Speaker, in the past I have had the opportunity of serving the volunteer fire fighting crews in both Tuktoyaktuk and Arviat. Mr. Speaker, this first hand experience gives me a realistic view of the hard work and dedication that fire fighting demands. Mr. Speaker, Johnny Sewoee is the Fire Chief of my own community of Arviat. He has a voluntary crew of twenty fire fighters who may at any given time be asked to risk their lives to keep the Hamlet of Arviat safe from fire. Driving a sixteen year old fire truck, Mr. Speaker, Johnny and his crew carry out practice runs every two weeks in the winter and once a week during the summer months. This practice session ensures that the crew keeps up-to-date on modern fire fighting techniques and keeps them always prepared in case of emergency.

Mr. Speaker, in addition to the actual fire fighting practices, the firemen pay regular visits to the local schools, teach our children about fire fighting, fire safety measures. The children are taught how to escape safely from their homes if they are caught on fire, and also, if their schools should be endangered by fire.

Mr. Speaker, in my other community of Baker Lake, Mr. Titus Alooq has been the fire chief for a number of years and leads a crew of fifteen volunteer firemen. Mr. Speaker, approximately two years ago, Baker Lake experienced a major fire where two staff houses caught fire within twenty minutes of each other. With only one fire truck at their disposal, and despite the brave efforts of the crew in sub-zero temperatures, the crew were only able to salvage one of the homes.

It is because of instances like this, Mr. Speaker, and the regular time-consuming training that they do, I am proud to acknowledge all the fire fighters, especially those dedicated to voluntary crews in Arviat and Baker Lake. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude and, far too often, they are taken for granted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Appreciation For Fire Fighters
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Member's statement, Mr. Krutko.

Impact Of Funding Reductions In Mackenzie Delta
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Premier has stated that the government is committed to improving social conditions, empowering communities and working towards community wellness through community based solutions. Ironically, community based improved programs like the Tl'oondih Healing Society, which, to date, there was a motion passed in the Committee of the Whole, and basically, nothing has been done.

So far, nothing has been done in regards to core funding, other healing programs are being funded over a million dollar a year, federal government has developed an initiative with the Tl'oondih Healing Society to manage and assist clients once they complete the Tl'oondih Healing program. This agreement was signed this summer between Human Resource Development Canada to develop and aftercare program to help individuals requiring skills and participate in the labour market in a more transactional way and become more independent.

I would like to also comment on the various Ministers' statements in regards to community empowerment. Community well being, fairness for all and all the other fairy tale stories that are being told and political promises are great. But in my riding there are 1700 people who receive capital expenditure of $900,000 per year compared to the other ridings. In my constituency over the last ten years, the capital spending works out to about $1200 per person compared to the next closest riding of Nunakput of $2300 per person.

The following ridings in the south received almost twice or three times as much revenues as I do in my riding in regards to loss of jobs, business opportunities and training, potential for benefits in my constituency, so I have received not as much as others over the last ten years.

On topics in regards to the other question, in government layoffs I received five percent of those cuts, and also, in regards to the Mackenzie Delta region, denied a project, that is the community correction facility for Aklavik and the Knute Lang learning and development correction centre, has been.

Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Impact Of Funding Reductions In Mackenzie Delta
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, the member from Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement, do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Krutko.

Impact Of Funding Reductions In Mackenzie Delta
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Mackenzie Delta was denied a community correction facility in Aklavik which was known as the Knute Lang learning and development correction centre. It was also refused, in Fort McPherson, the territorial government refused to fund one cent towards core funding the Tl'oondih Healing Program, yet funds other facilities across the Northwest Territories and also, southern Canada.

In Inuvik, federal funding was put towards the replacement of a hospital and that also has been cut by this government, so if this government can talk about fairness and equity and calling fair treatment to all, I do not know what the children of the Mackenzie Delta will think looking back over the last ten years and seeing what has happened. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you Mr. Krutko. Member's statement Mr. Ootes.

Growth And Achievement Of The GNWT
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, next year marks the 30th anniversary of the territorial government's arrival in the north. This will be the last time we will pass a milestone as a single territory.

We have come a long way since September 18, 1967. And those are the days the territorial government was a colonial government ruled under the benevolent dictatorship of Commissioner Stu Hodgson. We often get after cabinet sometimes for taking off an decisions without consulting the ordinary members, but let me say this, the cabinet powers today are mild compared to those of Commissioner Hodgson and the other commissioners of the early sixties and seventies, and I know because I worked for them.

That is all in the past now. When I look back on the last three decades, I am amazed at how much we have accomplished as a territory. This assembly has grown from an appointed council to a fully elected responsible and accountable democratic government, and I am very proud of that achievement.

With Nunavut, we are witnessing the creation of a new form of government. It will be an unprecedented blend of public and aboriginal institutions. The western territory is making an attempt to achieve the similar goal.

But our accomplishments go far beyond this government. In 1967 most Canadians would not have dreamed of land claims, remember this was two years before the infamous 1969 white paper on aboriginal people in Canada. Today, here in the territories we have four complete land claim agreements, and are close to finalizing a fifth.

Self-government, though it has a way to go, is on the road to becoming a practical reality here in the territories. I would like to note what our communities have achieved social and culturally as well. Unfortunately the two minute limit on member statements precludes that option.

Mr. Speaker I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Growth And Achievement Of The GNWT
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The member for Yellowknife Central is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent Mr. Ootes.

Growth And Achievement Of The GNWT
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the point of my statement is this: we are in period of rapid change. We are heading in new unprecedented directions. I believe this legislature will benefit from taking some small measure in 1997 to celebrate its 30th anniversary. A look at what we have accomplished in the past will help us focus on the issues that confront us in the near future. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

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Growth And Achievement Of The GNWT
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you Mr. Ootes. Member's statement, Mr. Rabesca.

Congratulating Grand Chief Joe Rabesca And Bhp
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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as you may recall a few short months ago, BHP along with a number of aboriginal groups started on a path that would provide assurance benefits and protections on areas of the environment and natural resources. The goals of course was to allow a diamond mine to operate within the NWT. A few have heard over the last day, or so, this goal is progressing towards a reality. I would like to congratulate our Grand Chief Joe Rabesca, the treaty 11 council negotiator as well as BHP for making this historical agreement, and making the next step in seeing this project reality.

This project means many benefits to our people as well as the rest of Northwest Territories. It is nice to see that glimmer of light in horizon. In these times of cutbacks and layoffs, we can really support and encourage the other negotiating group to do the best and to try to come up with a package that works for them.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate the Grand Chief and Council as well as BHP, as they say, diamonds are Dogribs best friends...(laughter). Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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