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Further Return To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not fully understand the question but I will answer it the best I can anyhow. User pay/user say gives the departments and the management the ability to manage their own resources within that department. It was through this the majority of those dollars, would have come out of Department of Public Works because the Department of Public Works was the department that used to manage on behalf of every government department, the majority of those services. The Department of Public Works will be downscaled significantly because of that initiative. Whether or not it can stand on its own, I believe that it can, regardless of user pay/user say, because nothing says those same managers will not go back to Public Works and buy that service. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions, supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So as the Premier said, substantial amounts of money have been transferred out of the budget of DPW to allow for the user pay/user say initiative and thus, they are left with very little, in the way of O & M or capital dollars, as indicated by the Premier. So, my supplementary question then is, what is the plan now for the Department of Public Works with 90 percent of its money gone? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Public Works will stay the same until we have amalgamation in the three departments and it will carry out its function, what its mandate is and possibly through management buying services of that department that will supplement its budget. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

No, Mr. Speaker. it is not a supplementary question, it is a point of clarification. Did the minister say that, indeed, Public Works would be an entity unto itself until the amalgamation or after amalgamation?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

With regard to your supplementary, you did indicate that it was not a supplementary and it was a point of clarification, it was still a question, Mr. Picco. I should be the one to ask members for a point of clarification when it is required, in this case there is. So could you clarify your question?

Supplementary To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am having a problem with my hearing thing so I could not quite hear the honourable member's answer and that was the point. My supplementary, my final supplementary question then, to the Premier is, because we are on that slippery slope of downsizing, user pay/user say, the Department of Public Works and Services lost 90 percent of its funding. Because of user pay/user say it would seem that there is nothing left for it but to be amalgamated.

So thus, my question is to the Premier, will the Department of Public Works and Services be amalgamated because of the lack of funds that it currently holds because it cannot stand alone now with 10 percent of the funding it has left?

Supplementary To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through the user say/user say service the departments now have the ability to go out and buy the services whether it be from the private sector or the Department of Public Works. In some cases the departments will be able to buy their services off the Department of Public Works and in some cases off the private sector.

I do not think that by saying that it has been reduced by 90 percent, I am not sure if it has been reduced by that much, but my understanding is that until we take a look at amalgamation, the Department of Public Works will be a department of this government. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Again just to remind the members that, when the members are asking a question and the question has been asked that they sit down after a question because, sometimes after a question is asked, the Hansard will shut off your mike and you do not get the added additions that you wanted to say in your preamble. Oral questions, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. While I appreciate that there were intervening discussions that took place between certain members and members of Cabinet and chairs over the lunch hour, not all members were party to those discussions and now we are being called upon to make important decisions not knowing what was discussed or what the implications of some of the decisions might be. Given that, I feel at a loss, to some extent, and seek unanimous consent, again, for a fifteen minute recess so that we can be updated on those discussions. Mr. Speaker, I also want to clarify, that question period would be stopped and re-started again after the fifteen minute recess?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Yes, the rule of the House is that if the member requests to return to an item then the rule applies to that one hour question period. If, during the question period, the member requests unanimous consent to extend question period, then there are not time limits. Yes, we will stop the clock if we have unanimous consent to take a fifteen minute recess.

There is a request by the member for Hay River, she is requesting unanimous consent to take a fifteen minute recess, do we have any nays? There are no nays, Mrs. Groenewegen...

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An Hon. Member

Nay.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

You do not have unanimous consent. So the clock continues to tick and we are still on question period. Oral question, Mr. Rabesca.

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James Rabesca North Slave

Yes, Mr. Speaker. can I ask for unanimous consent to go back to recognition of visitors in the gallery?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The member for North Slave is seeking unanimous consent to go back to Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery, but before I seek unanimous consent, I have already made rulings on this on previous occasions. While the clock is ticking for question period, if a member wishes to do that and it is the will of the House, then I cannot stop it from happening but to remind the members that when they do that, the clock will continue to run and you have, perhaps, not given the other members an opportunity to ask additional questions once question period is concluded. The member for North Slave is seeking unanimous consent. Do we have unanimous consent? Are there any nays? Mr. Rabesca, you have unanimous consent.

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James Rabesca North Slave

Yes, thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize the students from Rae-Edzo who are here this afternoon in the visitors' gallery. Their teachers are Mona Matthews and Rosa Ring, parent volunteer is Madeline Zoe and their bus driver is Michele Rabesca. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. We are back to Question Period. Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.

Question 48-13(4): Funding For Gwich'in Oil And Gas Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

November 28th, 1996

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. It is in regards to a statement I made earlier in the week, regarding a meeting which was held in Aklavik between the Gwich'in Tribal Council and a firm out of Calgary, Ground River Resources, hopefully, which is looking at lands for oil and gas within the Gwich'in settlement region. At the present time, there are funds available within the department for consultation with developers such as the mining companies for areas where there is development such as the Deh Cho and the Sahtu.

My question to the minister is, will he make those resources available to the Gwich'in Tribal Council and also have his resource people start that consultation with the Gwich'in to start looking at accessing some of those resources so they can meet with this company out of Calgary and start looking at what the potential possibility of oil and gas development is and the spin-offs that will come from that as soon as possible?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Minister of Resources, Wildlife & Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the oil and gas companies are interested in alliance within the Northwest Territories and they should be in a particular area. Irregardless of the location, irregardless of who the people in the vicinity are, it is the responsibility of this government to provide whatever support and assistance we can in order to allow for opportunities to be created, for processes to expedite economic development to be encouraged.

It is not the intent of this government to provide less services to certain peoples and regions of the north. It is my commitment and has always been a commitment I have had to provide for that. It is an opportunity and a privilege to provide and to offer a meeting to the member and his people and these leaders at the earliest opportunity to meet to see what we can do in this specific area. Aside from the earlier meeting that he was requesting, if there are specific things that we can do in the next day or so to give a forum to some of his leaders from his region to express ways in which we can help assist them in capitalizing and seizing opportunities that are currently waiting to be opened, to be seized upon, I would be most happy to do that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the potential to my region at the present time, which is economically lame, pretty quiet, nothing really happening in regards to development. Opportunities like these do not come too often. I think we have to take advantage of those opportunities that are there. This is an organization that we have had discussions with ten years ago. Now they are back and I do not think we should allow the opportunity to pass us by again.

I think the intention of my question is that we have to have the adequate resources to be able to not only sit down and meet with this company, but also have the resources to develop positions and also look at the benefits agreements because there is no northern accord in place. Also access agreements to those lands in the Gwich'in settlement region. Also look at the legal documents and have them reviewed by lawyers, consultants, people that have that expertise.

The resources we are talking about are not just for the sake of getting together and having a meeting. The resources have to be adequate to allow us to start the consultation process and come with agreements. Similar to the process that just went through with BHP in which there are social and economic impact agreements between that company and benefit agreements that have been signed. So, I think I am talking about something more than just a meeting between the parties. So, the resources are available more in the line of developing the proposal and also looking at the benefit agreements that have come forward with those proposals. So, will those resources be made available.