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Question 45-13(4): Tabling Of The Workplan On The Amalgamation Of Infrastructure Departments
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said previously, the Cabinet did look and consider this document and they approved this document to go to Government Operations, to review as well as to go to the general public for the stakeholders input into this document. We, as a government, have no objection at all, if Government Operations chooses to table the document in the House, that could be seen as part of their review of the document. Government Operations has the document now, it is my understanding, and if they wish to table it, I would welcome them to do that.

I am sure that all members of the Assembly understand that we, as a Cabinet, and myself as Premier have due process to follow and that is why I answered to questions previously the way I did. We believe that we are following that process and as long as they understand that it will have implications on other documents that we deal with in the future. I would welcome them to do that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions, supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Premier elaborate a little bit on how it is going to affect future documents?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have all agreed as members of this Assembly on the committee process. We have all agreed that when government is reviewing documents, and reviewing decisions, from there it would go to the committee process, and from the committee process it would come into the Legislative Assembly. This would pre-empt that, but if that is the way members choose to do it, then it is up to them.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Again, just to remind the minister that this is a convention, this is not the general rule of the House, what you are saying, because, not all documents go to committees. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You are totally right, and I apologize for that. What I was talking about, is when Cabinet has made a decision, especially on amalgamation of three departments, to develop a work plan, then it was to go to the committees and similar type decisions. But, I had the opportunity during the break to meet with the chairman of Government Operations and, in the spirit of consensus government, we do not have a problem as Cabinet, or myself as the Premier, and we have no objection to the chairman of Government Operations tabling that document. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions, supplementary. Mr. Erasmus.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am getting conflicting signals here, on the one hand the Premier is saying that he has no problem with me tabling this document, but on the other hand he is indicating that it may jeopardize future operation of the committee structure, the system that we have

in place. Perhaps the Premier could explain a little better what he means by that.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the fall of last year when we all got elected as members of the Legislative Assembly, we all agreed on a committee process to be used to look at and review decisions that the government made, for example, budgets or amalgamation of departments, or whatever. Part of that process, Mr. Speaker, was that after Cabinet had reviewed the documents and they had recommendations they would take that to the committee that was responsible for that document and we agreed on that process, so that is the process we are following.

Government Cabinet has reviewed an amalgamation document work plan and we sent it to government operations. It was our understanding at that time that Government Operations would review the document, as well as, stake-holder groups would review the document, then it would come into the Legislative Assembly in January.

My understanding from the questions today and from the meeting with the Caucus chairman is that some members have concerns whether or not this document is being implemented already or has been done already and has acknowledged those concerns, and, as I have said to the member, and I have said to the chairman of Government Operations, if they choose to table that document in the Legislative Assembly today or tomorrow, that would be no problem.

We support that, but it is coming from them and it is not coming from the Cabinet per se, because we agreed to follow a certain course of how to get input into our government decisions. That is the course we are following, so, there is no doubt in my mind, that this will happen today, then I would look forward to the next caucus meeting that we have, all 24 members to discuss the committee system and how it works, and how we would use it. It has been one year, maybe we have to review that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Oral questions. Oral question, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I request that we adjourn for 10 minutes, so that we have an opportunity as OMC to meet.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

There has been a request by the member for Yellowknife Centre to adjourn for 15 minutes, but again to remind the members that it is not up to one single member to dictate to the rest of the members, when to adjourn and when not to adjourn, so I am going to ask if we have unanimous consent to adjourn for 15 minutes. Do we have unanimous consent? There are no nays. We have 15 minutes. There is one nay, you do not have unanimous consent, Mr. Ootes.

Oral questions, Oral questions, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

My apologies Mr. Speaker, I will pass.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

No, you did not get unanimous consent. We are still on oral questions, Mr. Picco.

Question 46-13(4): User Pay/ User Say Initiatives Contained In Bill 1
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following the line of questioning from Mr. Erasmus and other members. I would just like to have some clarification to questions answered. Supplementary Appropriation, No. 2 in 96 and 97. The mains and supplementary. The total appropriation was $58,206,000. Can the Premier tell me is that part and parcel of the amalgamation of the three departments?

Question 46-13(4): User Pay/ User Say Initiatives Contained In Bill 1
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

I am sorry, Mr. Picco, but the Supplementary Appropriation, No 2 has already been decided by the House and is in third reading so you cannot ask questions on that. Oral questions, Mr. Picco.

Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker the user pay/user say initiative is a major component of this government. Can the Premier tell me, has this government made any moves to transfer funds from one department to another for the usage of user pay/user say?

Question 47-13(4): Status Of The Implementation Of The User Pay/user Say Initiatives
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year we passed a budget and part of that budget was user pay/user say and yes we have made moves to transfer to the departments authority some portions of their budget that Public Works used to have authority over before. We have talked about that previously in the House, Mr. Speaker. Everyone agreed when they passed the budget that in respect of good management and deputies being able to manage their own dollars in their department to become more effective, then user pay user/say would be one of the initiatives of the government and it was passed already by this House. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions supplementary, Mr Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, so the transfer of funds to different government departments, as far as, the user pay/user say strategy, that has been confirmed. My supplementary question to the minister is, the total amounts transferred to date, which is part of the public records, which is approved, could the minister tell me would that leave one department without sufficient resources to stand alone as a user of user pay/user say?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.