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Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we cut all the benefits and wages of our employees, and now we are going to take away the little bit of an incentive we have as to bonus points. I do not agree with that. Mr. Speaker, over the

past twelve months, culminating with the meeting in September with Mr. Todd and the Arctic College students in Iqaluit concerning their accommodations. I note now that the school year end is about three months away. We are going to be looking for more accommodations this fall. Can the Minister of the FMBS update this House on the status of the accommodations for students in Iqaluit and other Nunavut communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you know I am working in conjunction with my colleague Mr. Dent, the Minister of Education. We have asked the colleges to submit a housing plan to the department by the end of March. We will then seek a submission both from Public Works, that have some of the money right now, and any additional monies that are required to the FMBs. We are hoping to conclude the submission and the over all plan to meet the housing needs of Arctic College students, particularly in Kitikmeot, Keewatin and the other areas by April or May. Thank you.

Return To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand that the transfer of some programs to the Kitikmeot region from the Nunavut Arctic College depends on housing being made available for the students. I see that as a priority. In the Baffin region, we are using leased accommodations for a number of instances. We had some major problems there. Would the Minister be able to inform me that with this transfer coming forward, we are looking at enhancing and hopefully prolonging the duration of the leases in Iqaluit, Baffin and Nunavut students over the next x number of months, accommodating them before the division on April 1, 1999?

Supplementary To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

First of all it has to qualify subject to the FMB submission. It is our intention to ensure there is adequate housing in the Baffin region, which is Iqaluit where the campus is, and in Kitikmeot. The mayor has pointed out to me, when we were in Cambridge Bay this weekend, that there is an urgent need there. It is our intent to move as quickly as we can to provide some stability to the Arctic colleges and the need for accommodation, particularly since there is an acceleration of the educational programs that are under way to meet the requirements for Nunavut in April 1, 1999. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Question 353-13(4): Nunavut College Student Accommodation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a number of questions for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation, with respect to Plan 2000: A Positive Solution To The Public Housing Shortage. Mr. Speaker, in Mr. Arlooktoo's remarks made yesterday in the House, he indicated that Plan 2000 will provide a boost to the northern and local construction industries by creating up to 1000 additional seasonal construction supply and manufacturing jobs per year. Mr. Speaker, I know it is no secret to anyone that I represent a community which has a strong base in the supply, manufacture, and construction industry. I want to know what there is built into this program, what mechanism there is to ensure that we do not only realize the social benefit of more housing and more adequate housing, we also realize the economic benefit of all of the spin off we can possibly gain in terms of economic growth from this project. Thank you.

Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Arlooktoo.

Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I do not have the actual percentage in front of me, but there is a set amount of the grant we would give to these new home owners that must be used for northern manufactured. Throughout the process we will strongly encourage the new home owners to use northern manufacturers and to use northern suppliers.

Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for his answer. However, strongly encourage is not very encouraging and reassuring to me. Under the old system that we are diverging from now, a client could apply to build an access home, whereby, I believe the purchasing of materials would be monitored and administered through the NWT Housing Corporations.

It is easy for me to understand how you would direct your own corporation to deal with suppliers, manufacturers, and construction companies. When each individual person will be going out and hiring a contractor and purchasing their own materials for their home, it eludes me what mechanism there is to ensure they support our local northern businesses. Could the Minister please elaborate on such a mechanism? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, there will be two ways a client will be able to purchase materials for a house. One, they can go out on their own to get a plan and a design and purchase materials on their own. In which case we would insist, as a condition of the grant, that a portion of that be used

for northern manufacturers. The other way that they could get the materials is through the Housing Corporation packages we have on the shelf that are presently being used. There is already a built in system of using northern manufacturers in a high degree of use of materials from the north.

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the notes provided by the Minister yesterday, he indicated that this program is designed to help families find and access suitable healthy and affordable housing, no matter what their income level. I was wondering if he could interpret that for me. No matter what their income level, they have to go to the bank regardless of the 25 percentage down that they secure from the housing corporation. They still have to go to the bank, and they still have to borrow the money. How does this affect low income, how does this affect high income? I am curious about that remark, no matter what their income level.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, that portion of my statement yesterday was pointed out to me also. I think an additional clarifier would have been in order. The clients that access homes through our programs must be able to one, pay for the power, the fuel, and all the operating costs of that house, plus a mortgage. In most cases the income levels start between $35,000 and $50,000 and upwards. Anything below that you would not be able to pay for the operation of the house plus a mortgage. Therefore, you would likely be in our low cost social housing.

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question is: has the department, or has the corporation given any consideration to the fact that this program may be perceived as being somewhat discriminatory? We have such diversity in economic costs in varying regions in the Northwest Territories. For example, in a community like Pangnirtung a $200,000 home would just be considered basic shelter. In a community say like Fort Smith a $200,000 home would probably be one of the nicest houses in town. How does this Plan 2000 address that disparity and that diversity of communities that comprise the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, the Member brings up a good question. In fact, I think her numbers are not far off. The estimates that we have for a decent new house in Fort Resolution, which is near her constituency, would cost $143,000. In Cambridge Bay, that same house would cost $170,000. There is a recognition that there are different costs. Therefore, the payments that we will be using and the scale is a sliding scale which recognizes one, the income of the client and two, the cost of building or maintaining a home in that community.

Further Return To Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Question 354-13(4): Plan 2000 - Public Housing Strategy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 355-13(4): Effects Of Alcohol On Infant Mortality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services. Mr. Speaker, the Minister made a statement on the effects of cigarettes on infant mortality a few days ago, I believe. I would like to know if the Minister has any information on the effects of alcohol on infant mortality. Thank you.