This is page numbers 1157 - 1192 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Member's Statement 342-13(4): Potential Telephone Service Competition
Item 3: Members' Statements

May 27th, 1997

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, northern telephone users will soon find out what type of savings they will experience from long distance calling charges. The CRTC has requested NorthwesTel to submit by May 30th a plan that will bring competition to the long distance service in northern Canada. As of today, NorthwesTel is the only legal provider of long distance in the Yukon and the Northwest Territories. The reason for this submission is because a southern based company, specializing in long distance carrier rates, filed a complaint about the NorthwesTel monopoly.

What has happened to date is that telephone companies charge higher long distance rates and this extra revenue was used to offset the cost of local service. Here in the north, NorthwesTel's local phone rates have continually increased over the past few years as a result of CRTC approval for rate rebalancing. The new submission as requested by CRTC could mean dramatic increases to the local phone rates. As one of the largest customers of NorthwesTel does the GNWT have a position on the plan to bring competition to the long distance market and has the GNWT looked at the implications if local users costs continue to rise?

Mr. Speaker, with job reductions, wage rollbacks, increased water and sewage costs, et cetera to the average GNWT resident, what will the impact of increased local phone rates have? For business and government, what will the extra cost of business be? Who will pay this extra cost? Will the cost be turned over to the consumer? Mr. Speaker, NorthwesTel must make its proposal available for public inspection during normal working hours at every NorthwesTel business office but who will be representing the local resident? The consumer? There is only one public meeting scheduled for the Northwest Territories and that is here in Yellowknife on June 24, 1997. Later today, I will be asking the appropriate Minister questions on this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 342-13(4): Potential Telephone Service Competition
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Picco. The honourable Member for Kivallivik, Mr. O'Brien.

Member's Statement 343-13(4): Replacement Of Keewatin Dental Therapists
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once again today I rise on a sad note. Mr. Speaker, over the past ten years, dental therapists have been working, educating and caring for students in the Keewatin schools. Mr. Speaker, at the end of this month, it is the intention of the Keewatin Health Board to terminate the dental therapists and replace them with a dentist. Mr. Speaker, I do not know the details as to what services will be delivered, how many hours the dentist will serve. I can tell you that most of the communities do not want this change. They are happy with the level of service that they presently enjoy. Most of these individuals, these therapists, have worked for the past ten to 12 years in the school system with the children. The parents and the teaching staff are very happy with them. They would like to see the system stay as it is.

Mr. Speaker, the concerns of the communities, the hamlets have been made known to the health boards. This week we received letters from the hamlets and the hamlet councils stating that they did not want this system changed. They want it left the way it presently is. Up to this point, Mr. Speaker, there has been no change in the direction of the decision by the health board. They are still forging on with their decision to impose this new concept.

Mr. Speaker, it was only eight months ago that this government tried to impose a new Keewatin resupply system on the Keewatin people. The response by the mayors and the hamlets was that they did not agree with the new proposal. They felt it was not feasible. They did not want it to go ahead. Still, Mr. Speaker, the government forged on with this proposal. After eight months of meetings and a $100,000 study, the proposal was killed. Mr. Speaker, once again the people want to be heard. They do not agree with this new proposal. In the end, Mr. Speaker, we do not want to see another David and Goliath story. Thank you.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 343-13(4): Replacement Of Keewatin Dental Therapists
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North, Mr. Erasmus.

Member's Statement 344-13(4): Need For Partnerships In Northern Governance
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak about partnerships. Mr. Speaker, one of the current buzz words everyone hears is partnerships. Although it may seem like jargon, the 13th Assembly is committed to the idea behind the word. Committed to finding ways to let the various parties, the GNWT, the municipalities and the aboriginal governments have a voice and a role to work together rather than against each other, to recognize current and future common interests. Historically, government has not been great about bringing all parties to the table. In Yellowknife, government has often talked to the Yellowknives Dene First Nation or to the municipality, but seldom to both. Decisions were made which made some people unhappy or left them in the dark.

Mr. Speaker, the big push of this Assembly has been to recognize the need for partnerships, to encourage greater sharing of authority and responsibility through community empowerment. One of the first steps was to get public government and self-government working together on the Western Constitutional Process. There is a more local and a more recent example of how this could work in Yellowknife. I am talking about the process to appoint an administrator for the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Board. I am pleased to see both Yellowknife City Council and the Yellowknives Dene First Nation were consulted. Mr. Speaker, nothing was imposed. The territorial government, the municipality and the first nation reached agreement on how to get the work done and who should be hired to do it. Everyone was involved and a good decision was made. This is one small but important step in building the kinds of partnerships we need, partnerships based on trust and working together. I hope this will serve as an example for other departments and communities. Thank you.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 344-13(4): Need For Partnerships In Northern Governance
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Henry.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Michael Adam. He has been a GNWT employee for the past 12 years. He is a technical consultant with Systems and Computer Services. He is taking some time off and visiting us in the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.

Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable colleagues. Today, I would like to a question to the Minister of Transportation, Honourable Jim Antoine. It is in regards to the airstrip that should be moved to another location. I just wonder whether it has been considered by the Department of Transportation whether the airstrip could be moved to another location from its present location. (Translation ends)

Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good afternoon colleagues. Mr. Speaker, the Pangnirtung airport, there was a study done by the Department of Transportation on this airport in 1993. As a result of that study, the cost of relocating the airstrip was very expensive. I think it was estimated at about $11 million to relocate, the least cost of relocation. As a result, the department had concluded that kind of expenditure could not be justified at that time. At the present time, the department's position is that we cannot afford to relocate the airstrip at this time. However, because of the numerous requests from other communities for work on their airstrip and because of the outstanding requests of residents of Pangnirtung, which are very expensive, and the current level does not allow us to program these projects at this time. As a department we have been trying to undertake a full review of the existing airports to determine long term improvement plans which can be supported with the existing funds that we have. At the same time, carriers and communities such as Pangnirtung are being directly involved in these studies. Thank you.

Return To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Enuaraq.

Supplementary To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wrote a letter to the Minister of Transportation recently and asked him whether he could provide some partial funding for the transfer or the moving of the airstrip. I wonder if he could provide some partial funding for the relocation of the airstrip in Pangnirtung? Thank you. (Translation ends)

Supplementary To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

(Translation) Mr. Antoine. (Translation ends)

Further Return To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the airport in Pangnirtung has been studied, like I said, there was an intensive study done in 1993 which looked at the options for relocating and upgrading the airport. During the study, the department identified about five alternative airport sites and we also compared the cost of a new airport at these sites, upgrading the existing airport. Like I said, the cost to relocate is more than what we have. As we know, in the last 18 months we went through a very intensive cost cutting exercise. The Department of Transportation took a very big cut in our existing capital money. It is very impossible to commit to funding any part of relocating this airport project. However, the department is looking at long term plans. We cannot afford it now, but we could at least look at long term plans on how something like this could be achieved in the future. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Question 476-13(4): Moving Airstrip In Pangnirtung
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of FMBS and it is regarding the issue of settlement allowances that I addressed in my Member's statement. I have been in contact with the Minister on this particular issue for many months now and it seems no nearer to any kind of clear resolution than when I first contacted him. Could the Minister please indicate the status of this particular matter to this House and time-lines, please?

Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I can appreciate my honourable colleagues concern and the concern of some of the constituents he represents, but I am not really in a position to make any comment on that. I mean, it is before arbitration. It would be inappropriate for me to make any comment. We

have to let due process take its course and I will do what I can to encourage a speedy resolve, one way or the other, to this outstanding issue. Thank you.

Return To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Miltenberger, supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This matter affects, as I indicated, about 2,000 employees located in Hay River, Fort Smith, and Yellowknife. There are a number of us that are concerned about this issue. Information I received indicates that the matter was in fact taken out of arbitration. So could the Minister elaborate further on his particular comment that it is before arbitration? It seems to be causing some confusion. If in fact it is before arbitration, I agree then the method of resolution that the union would agree to as well. But my understanding is that, in fact, it is not before arbitration. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

It is not uncommon for the honourable Members to know more than I do in this job, and I say that in all seriousness, but my to understanding it is. As I said, I think it would be unfair of me at this time to make any comment. We are going to have to let due process take its course and my notes say that it was referred to arbitration. I will double check on that, but I am not prepared to answer any other questions on this issue at this time. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Second supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Question 477-13(4): Settlement Allowance For Unionized Employees
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister give some assurances then, as to the time-lines involved with his checking on this particular issue, and clarifying whether in fact it is within the arbitration process or not? His timely response would be appreciated and would greatly direct the slant of the questions that I would have. Thank you.