Debates of Jan. 29th, 1998

This is page numbers 403 - 439 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Safety Around Municipal Service Vehicles
Mine Trades Access Program
Northerner Attends Olympic Youth Camp - Nagano, Japan
Progress Needed On Addressing Fas/fae
Health Board Difficulties
Staff Housing Shortage
Manitoba Trade Mission
The Need To Reflect On Health And Social Service Program Reductions
Early Childhood Intervention
International Year Of Older Persons
Diamond Value-added Industries
Canadian Gold Reserves
Renewable Resource Officer Training Programs
Return To Oral Question 118-13(5): Opinion On Conflict Of Interest
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Health Board Support Systems
Rabies Outbreak In Gjoa Haven
Additional Taxes On The Mining Industry
Fas/fae Strategy
Healthy Children Initiative
Health And Social Services Action Plan
University And College Entrance Program
Report On Keewatin Dental Services
Training Provided To Health Boards
Health Boards Without Ceos
Cost Of Baffin Health Services
Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program
Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Agreement
Mine Trades Access Program Enrolment
Employment Generated Through Aurora Fund
Revert To Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Tabled Document 24-13(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Public Accounts, 1996-97
Tabled Document 25-13(5): Standard GNWT Lease Form
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Tabled Document 26-13(5): Memo From Nwtta President To Decs, Deas And Directors Re: Housing
Tabled Document 27-13(5): Letter From Baffin Divisional Education Council Re: Housing Issues
Tabled Document 28-13(5): Internet Message From Mary West: Baffin Fetal Alcohol Network
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, that is but he asked me about the analysts and I said they all work out of Yellowknife.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. We are on page 2-29, total operations and maintenance, $4,153,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

I recognize Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I may have waited too long to ask this. Is this the area that the payroll tax comes under?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

I am sorry, I missed your question, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

That is fine, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Krutko answered my question.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Total operations and maintenance, $4,153,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Total expenditures on page 2-29, $4,153,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Page 2-30, details of grants and contributions, contributions. Total contributions, $7,866,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Page 2-31, information item, activity positions.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Page 2-32, detail of work performed on behalf of third parties.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

We will go back to page 2-25. Financial Management Board Secretariat, program summary, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $42,460,000. I now recognize Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, just some points of clarification. Indeed when we are looking at the active positions in the main estimates under 2-31, which will include the total and other operations and maintenance because they are salaries and wages, I note, for example, at headquarters there was actually an increase of one position, full-time, but I note in the regions, as I had earlier stated, for example in my region we dropped from 15 to 11 full-time positions, in the Keewatin region we dropped by four full-time positions, I wonder why the regions seem to be losing positions under the Financial Management Board Secretariat?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Picco, are you asking to go back to page 2-31 active positions?

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Well, I do not know Mr. Chairman, that would be at your discretion. I would say to you that, indeed, if we are looking at the final finality under 2-25, $42,460,000 which includes salaries and wages I was asking about positions. If you want to go back to 2-31 that is fine, but I think it is covered under $42,460,000.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. I believe you have a legitimate argument that in fact program summary covers the whole activities, therefore I will allow your question to Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

The primary reason for the cutbacks at the regional level was because of the user pay/user say initiative when we pushed out responsibilities for those out to the departments. So we lost those jobs, and we have explained that in committee on several occasions. That is really the primary reason for it.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it is very nice when things are explained in committee, but that is true, sometimes they are explained in committee and a lot of people who have an opportunity to read Hansard and so on, do not know what goes on in committee. Sometimes you ask questions so that the information can come out. I wonder if a follow up question to the Minister would be, indeed, because those positions were not needed, because of user pay/user say, would it be safe to assume that the majority of these employees received employment opportunities then from the departments which took over the responsibilities? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.