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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Motion No. 10. I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs be the coordinating body for the GNWT Capital Allocation Process to prevent duplication of requests, provide a centralized agency responsible for the provision of capital planning information and establish a one-stop process for municipalities requesting capital projects. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried. Mr. Barnabas, please continue.

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Motion No. 11.

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs direct that the annual call for capital projects from the Premier's office be sent as soon as possible after March 31st each year and require responses from the community regarding any revisions or additions before June 20th. If responses are not received by the deadline, funding priorities should remain the same and the Five-Year Capital Plan be adhered to. If either the government or the community makes any revisions, they should be fully substantiated. This committee supports the Auditor General's recommendation that the current Capital Standards and Criteria be reviewed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried. Mr. Barnabas, do you have any further motions?

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

No, Mr. Chairman. At this time I would like to give this report to Mr. Steen, my colleague.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Section 5, Accrual-Based Accounting System.

The Office of the Auditor General (OAG) observed that all communities currently use a cash-based accounting system throughout the year and conclude with an accrual-based annual financial statement at the end of the fiscal year. The OAG warns that there is a danger of comparing results from different methods. The OAG further noted that while a cash-based system reflects the amount of cash-on-hand, the system does not accurately calculate account receivables and account payables as an accrual-based system would. In short, a cash-based system will not identify bills due, but not yet paid. These deficiencies compromise the forecasting and evaluation abilities of the municipality and violate Canadian Institute of Chartered Accountants (CICA) accounting guidelines. The committee agrees with the OAGs assessment.

According to the department, however, the cash system better serves the needs of the municipal councils as it more accurately determines remaining cash. The department added that all municipalities in the Northwest Territories, including the city of Yellowknife, use the same cash-based system throughout the year.

Nonetheless, the committee agrees with the conclusion of the Auditor General that the current cash system lacks the forecasting and overall evaluation characteristics that are required to responsibly manage the finances of municipalities.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I would like to put forward Motion No. 12. I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs make efforts to ensure all municipalities move toward the use of an accrual accounting system throughout the year. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried. Continue, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now defer to my honourable colleague, Mrs. Groenewegen for conclusion of this report.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Municipal Taxing Authorities Incentives 6.1, has two distinct categories of municipalities within the municipal funding domain, general taxing authorities (GTAs) and municipal taxing authorities (MTAs). The department funds the categories of municipalities differently. MTA municipalities have the ability to generate revenues through taxation, resulting in a smaller component of their overall revenues being realized from the department. GTA

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion. I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs provide the committee and all GTA communities with a detailed description of incentives for a GTA municipality to convert to an MTA municipality.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Mrs. Groenewegen, do you have a further report to make?

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In summary, the committee reiterates its appreciation for the efforts and time provided by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and the Office of the Auditor General of Canada in carrying forward this important review process. That concludes the report. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Committee report 08-13(5), does the committee agree this report is concluded?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. As previously agreed to, we will now consider Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Financial Administration Act, No. 2. I believe it is the Premier who will be making the remarks. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to be able to make these opening remarks, but I think the bill was brought forward by the Minister of Finance so I should give him the opportunity to do it. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I now recognize Mr. John Todd, the honourable Minister for Finance. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize. I was having a large discussion with our Deputy Commissioner in the back. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of this act is to amend the Financial Administration Act to allow the Financial Management Board to authorize indemnities with no set limits to known government personnel and special cases. It would also allow the Financial Management Board to authorize the indemnification of a board, agency, committee or council performing on behalf of government, and in the case of municipalities, for environmental liabilities which may be associated with the transfer of assets under the community empowerment or other initiatives.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Todd, I accept your apology. Perhaps you got your priorities mixed up earlier. Thank you. I have Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Government Operations reviewed Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Financial Administration Act, No. 2, at its meeting on June 2, 1998. The standing committee had also considered

the legislative proposal for this bill at previous meetings and had met with the Minister to discuss the proposed amendments. The committee would like to thank the Minister of Finance and his officials for presenting the bill and responding to the committee's questions on the bill and on the legislative proposal.

Bill 5 would amend the Financial Administration Act to change the primary authority for making indemnities from the Commissioner to the Minister of Finance with FMB approval. Also, it would provide that an indemnity with a maximum liability of more than $500,000 or an indemnity that cannot be quantified may be made to the benefit of an individual who is not a public servant and who serves at the request of the government as a member of a board, agency, committee or council; a board, agency, committee or council that performs functions on behalf of the government; and third, a municipal corporation, settlement corporation or other community government body in respect to environmental liabilities associated with the transfer of assets or infrastructure by the government.

The bill would also authorize a Minister other than the Minister of Finance to make an indemnity referred to above on the recommendation of the FMB and with the approval of the Minister of Finance. In all other circumstances, the $500,000 limit on indemnities would remain. The FMB must be satisfied that measures have been taken to minimize any potential risk to the government and that insurance is unavailable or is uneconomic. As well, the Minister of Finance must give at least 14 days notice to Members of the Legislative Assembly before the board makes a recommendation for an indemnity that could exceed $500,000.

This bill is in part a response to a specific requirement that the NWT participate in an indemnification agreement covering provincial and territorial non-government officials on the Canadian Blood Agency. Indemnities are also required for non-government appointees who represent government interests on a range of boards and committees. As well, communities would find it difficult to accept transfers of assets and infrastructure under the community empowerment initiative without some indemnification.

Mr. Chairman, this bill addresses the major concerns that the standing committee raised with the Minister. The committee was particularly concerned that the amendments should be specific and should not leave it open for the government to provide indemnities without limitation. The bill retains the limit on indemnities that is currently in the act for all situations other than those specifically mentioned.

Mr. Chairman, committee Members may have additional comments or questions on this bill as we proceed. This concludes the standing committee's comments on Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Financial Administration Act, No. 2. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. I would like to now offer the Minister the opportunity to bring in the witnesses, if he so wishes. Mr. Todd, do you want to bring in the witnesses? Do we agree?