This is page numbers 1573 - 1601 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

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Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Ng.

Minister's Statement 124-13(5): Strategic Plan
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide Members with an update on the Department of Health and Social Services' strategic plan, Shaping Our Future: A Strategic Plan for Health and Wellness.

During the next few years, the people of the north face historic change. Shaping Our Future provides a framework for the governments of Nunavut and the Western Territory to develop effective and sustainable health and social services systems that will meet people's needs now and well into the next century.

This plan results from the department's strategic planning activities over the past 18 months. Creating the plan involved extensive consultations by boards and the department with the public, non-profit groups, associations and other departments. Shaping Our Future identifies the challenges to improving health and well-being. It provides a framework for making improvements to the delivery and management of services. Over the next few years when two new governments are developing, the plan will provide a focus on our most pressing health and social issues.

During our consultations, we heard from people across the north about what is important to them. We heard about their expectations and needs and about how we can improve the system. We also heard that we cannot wait to make changes to improve the health of our children, youth, families and communities. Mr. Speaker, we must address health and social issues today. Many people stressed the importance of fair and equal access to services. They want to take greater ownership of personal and community issues, supported by government.

The system must be managed so that basic health and social needs can always be met. The system must place the needs of individuals and families first. Mr. Speaker, services should be coordinated and integrated so people get the services they need when they need them.

Shaping Our Future is a commitment to make improvements where they are needed and to keep the things that are working well.

The plan focuses on three areas:

1. increasing partnerships between different agencies at all levels to provide better services;

2. involving all of the government in improving health and well-being by dealing with the underlying causes of health and social problems, such as

-low income and education,

-unemployment,

-poor lifestyle choices,

-addictions,

-abuse, violence and crime,

-inadequate housing and environmental pollution; and finally

3. improving the network of programs and services.

The plan will be distributed to MLA's, boards, departments and interested agencies over the next few weeks. A summary of the plan will be available to the public at their local health and social services office or from their board. The plan will also be posted to the department's world wide web.

We will, Mr. Speaker, collaborate with our partners to move this plan into action. Some work is just beginning. For example, we are developing a Mental Health Strategy and a Health Promotion Strategy to address coordination and gaps in service delivery for these areas.

Other work is well underway. Health Suite and the Child Welfare Information System are two new information systems that will improve our management and use of the information we collect. These new systems will be installed once new computers are available in local and regional offices.

These activities highlight the department's commitment to improve health and well-being as well as our public system of programs and services. These activities show that we are prepared to act on the directions spelled out in our strategic plan.

The work that went into this plan and the work that continues will allow a stable start for the two new governments. In the future, we need to keep our commitment to the people by keeping health and social issues a government priority. Mr. Speaker, we look forward to working with the public and our partners to meet the needs of northerners with innovation, cooperation and collaboration.

Mr. Speaker, later today I will table a summary of Shaping Our Future: A Strategic Plan For Health And Wellness. For further information on the plan and related activities, I invite Members to visit the display set up in the Great Hall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Minister's Statement 124-13(5): Strategic Plan
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson.

Minister's Statement 125-13(5): Joint Nwtam/maca Municipal Finance Review
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to advise Members today of the progress that has been made on the Municipal Finance Review. This review is being done by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, in partnership with the NWT Association of Municipalities. Members may recall this was an initiative highlighted in MACA's 97-98 and 98-99 business plans.

Mr. Speaker, community governments have raised concerns with the current provisions of MACA's funding programs. The NWT Association of Municipalities also requested this review in a resolution at their 1996 Annual General Meeting.

Mr. Speaker, last Friday the NWT Association of Municipalities and MACA presented the first two public consultation documents to community governments at the association's annual general meeting in Hay River. I will be providing copies of these two documents to Members of this Assembly today. The first document is called the Municipal Finance Review portfolio. It is intended to be a consultation primer and provide stakeholders with a brief overview of the issues, components, possible outcomes and consultation schedule. The second document is called Part 2, Building Key Concepts. It discusses issues that are important for early consideration, before proposals to revise existing funding arrangements are fully developed. In September a third document called, Understanding the Funding Distribution Options, will present stakeholders with proposals for a new financial relationship with community governments. It will also include analysis of how these possible changes could affect the funding available to each community and their financial bottom line.

Mr. Speaker, I invite all Members to take the time to review these documents and discuss them with their constituents. Any comments, concerns or other feedback from Members would be very much appreciated. In addition to consultations with community governments, a number of other stakeholders will be consulted by MACA and the Association. These include band councils and Metis locals, the Office of the Interim Commissioner, Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated and other First Nations organizations.

Mr. Speaker, consultation on the Municipal Financing Review will continue through to mid-December. Then the feedback and advice received will be combined. Final proposals will be developed for joint recommendation by the association and the department for presentation to the two new territorial governments on April 1, 1999. It will be up to the two new governments to decide when and how these recommendations might then be implemented. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Minister's Statement 125-13(5): Joint Nwtam/maca Municipal Finance Review
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Ministers' statements. Mr. Antoine.

Minister's Statement 126-13(5): Memorandum Of Understanding, Partners In Compliance Program
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise this Assembly that a number of productive discussions have recently taken place between my department and the Alberta Department of Transportation and Utilities. With the participation of the Regulatory Reform Secretariat and the Minister responsible for the Regulatory Reform Secretariat, the focus of these discussions has centred on the areas of regulatory harmonization and the reduction of barriers to trade for the motor carrier industry. The aim is to provide a seamless program between the two jurisdictions with the goal of increased highway safety, a smooth flow of goods across borders and ultimate cost benefits to our consumers.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce that the first step toward harmonization with Alberta was taken on May 29, 1998 when Premier Don Morin signed a Memorandum of Understanding on my behalf for the Partners in Compliance Program. The Partners in Compliance Program started as a joint and innovative program between Alberta Transportation and Utilities and the Alberta Trucking Association in 1995. Under the program, transportation carriers, including truck and bus operators, commit to a high level of compliance and safety performance based on a system of benchmarks reporting and general monitoring.

Carriers who participate in this voluntary safety program are rewarded with a number of operational and administrative considerations, such as reduced random inspections and less paperwork, in return for their increased commitment to highway safety. Government benefits from greater regulatory compliance, improved highway safety and the ability to refocus enforcement efforts and resources on those carriers requiring greater attention.

Mr. Speaker, the signing of this agreement means greater cooperation between Alberta and the Northwest Territories, as this program expands to include the Government of the Northwest Territories and the NWT Motor Transport Association. It is seen as the first step toward national and international participation in the Partners in Compliance program.

I am pleased at the cooperation shown between Alberta and the Northwest Territories and further, Mr. Speaker, I am very happy to implement a program aimed at improving motor carrier safety through the cooperation, trust and good judgement of responsible carriers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Minister's Statement 126-13(5): Memorandum Of Understanding, Partners In Compliance Program
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson

Minister's Statement 127-13(5): Sport North Annual General Meeting
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Mr. Speaker, on May 23rd and 24th the Sport North Federation held its Annual General Meeting in Yellowknife. Representatives from 32 territorial sport organizations, along with recreation leaders from across the Northwest Territories attended the meeting.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to report that the delegates made preparations for the future of Sport North. The delegates formed Nunavut and Western Caucuses. They discussed the future of Sport North for the Western Territory and the creation of Sport Nunavut for the Nunavut territory. The Western Caucus reviewed how Sport North is currently organized and considered recommendations for the future.

The Nunavut Caucus supported an interim constitution and bylaws, which form the working documents that will guide the creation of Sport Nunavut.

Mr. Speaker, the Nunavut delegates elected an Interim board to work on incorporating the Sport Nunavut Federation as a society. The Interim board is expected to submit a draft Sport Nunavut proposal to the Interim Commissioner, to me and to the Nunavut Deputy Minister of Community Government, Housing and Transportation. Meanwhile, Mr. Speaker, Sport North will continue to represent the territories until the founding Sport Nunavut meeting is held. Sport North will also work with the Interim board to ensure a smooth transition between the two sport organizations. Through the combined efforts of Sport North, the territorial sport organizations, community governments and MACA, more northerners are benefiting from sport programs than ever before.

Mr. Speaker, this will be an exciting year for all partners involved in sport across the territories. The challenge today is to continue the development of sport programs for our children and youth at the grassroots level, while preparing and planning for the future. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs will continue its support by providing healthy lifestyle choices and recreation activities to all northern residents. We are committed to:

-providing the necessary sport and recreation facilities to communities,

-fostering the development of sport and recreation programs throughout the territories,

-assisting Sport North in carrying out its mandate, and

-helping to make Sport Nunavut a reality.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker

Minister's Statement 127-13(5): Sport North Annual General Meeting
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Member's Statement 494-13(5): Improvements Needed To Workers' Compensation Legislation
Item 3: Members' Statements

June 2nd, 1998

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to talk about the Workers' Compensation Board. The NWT is the only jurisdiction where the Workers' Compensation Board can sue on behalf of a third party. That is not possible in any of the other provinces, to my understanding. For example, in Igloolik recently, the Workers' Compensation Board investigated a construction accident under the NWT Safety Act and then laid a complaint to courts under the same act. Subsequently, the company was fined $60,000. Employers pay the Workers' Compensation Board dues on behalf of the workers, but if a company is hit with a third party liability, then that company is going to start buying third party liability insurance, and the costs will be passed on to the general public in the Northwest Territories. In other words, costs will escalate for construction and so forth, but for the company and its employees, it is a game of double jeopardy, Mr. Speaker. On the one hand, they help pay the assessments, but in the event of an accident, the company and its individuals will, in all likelihood, have to be superassessed for several years to recover the money that was paid out. Also now, Workers' Compensation Board turns around and sues the same company or individuals as a third party. In other words, the company and individuals are penalized both ways. I understand also, Mr. Speaker, that in the event that there are dollars recovered, it goes into the general fund of the Workers' Compensation Board and not to the individuals. Mr. Speaker, I have to leave the House for a period of time, but if I return in time during item 7, written questions, I will be presenting written questions on this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 494-13(5): Improvements Needed To Workers' Compensation Legislation
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Member's Statement 495-13(5): Concerns With The State Of The Collective Bargaining Process
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am very concerned with the current state of negotiations with the UNW on the new contract. I question the government's insistence on tying the pay equity issue to the collective bargaining process. Mr. Speaker, if, as the government insists, the signing of a collective agreement without dealing with the pay equity issue leaves the government in a precarious legal quandary, how were the last four or five collective agreements signed off by this and other governments?

I understand, Mr. Speaker, the fiscal reality that is driving the Minister of Finance to push for the acceptance of the combined settlement. It is, as he said, Mr. Speaker, an affordable northern-made solution to the pay equity dispute, but I can also appreciate, Mr. Speaker, the UNW's hesitation to sign off on a pay equity methodology that they have serious reservations about. It appears, Mr. Speaker, that both sides in the dispute are unwilling to compromise. However, Mr. Speaker, I believe that if the pay equity issue is separated, we could at least move on the collective bargaining, which is, as I understand, close to being completed.

The union must keep in mind that the days of unlimited government funding are over, and the pay equity dispute must be settled at a reasonable cost. The services this government provides to the public cannot be compromised any further than they already are. The union would garner little public support or sympathy should a settlement be imposed on the government by the proposed tribunal and government services have to be cut back as a result. There is no benefit to union members if the settlement of pay equity dispute results in cutbacks to the quality of education and health care that they and their families receive.

Mr. Speaker, the Finance Minister has a job to do, to resolve the pay equity issue with the best interests of the constituents that we represent kept in mind. The union executive also has a very understandable job to do, protecting the interests of their membership that they represent. There is no doubt in my mind that the strategic position of the Finance Minister to tie pay equity to the collective bargaining process was predetermined to get the pay equity deal done.

I believe that the $40 million, however, that is on the table is sufficient to resolve the dispute. The union might not believe that the money is correctly apportioned to deal with the pay equity dispute, but they should at least be willing, Mr. Speaker, to work with this government to resolve this issue. Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

Member's Statement 495-13(5): Concerns With The State Of The Collective Bargaining Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Hay River is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Do we have any nays? Mrs. Groenewegen, you have unanimous consent.

Member's Statement 495-13(5): Concerns With The State Of The Collective Bargaining Process
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, both sides must move. The union must be willing to at least look at the proposed Hay Job Evaluation System, and the government must be willing to attempt to address the concerns that the union has with the government's proposed solution to the pay equity dilemma. Failing that, Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, I think the government should show good faith and separate the pay equity issue from the collective bargaining process and, if necessary, go to an independent binding arbitrator. If the Minister is confident that the $40 million is a fair and equitable solution to the pay equity problem, then he should have no problems with this.

Mr. Speaker, the reality is simple. We have to get this pay equity issue off our plates before division complicates this matter even further. We have to broker a solution that is affordable to the government and fair to union members without impacting on the already stretched services that this government provides to the general public. Mr. Speaker, I strongly urge the union and the government to get back to the table, so we can all get to work on improving the lives of the residents of both of our future new territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 495-13(5): Concerns With The State Of The Collective Bargaining Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

Member's Statement 496-13(5): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Promotion
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to address the issue of tourism, in particular, in the Mackenzie Delta. As you may all be aware, Fort McPherson is the first community that is seen after travelling the Dempster Highway and the Yukon by tourists. The residents of Fort McPherson feel that they act as ambassadors for the rest of the Northwest Territories due to the impression that is left with tourists once they arrive. Mr. Speaker, I feel this matter has to receive the attention of this government, so that we do promote tourism, especially in the Mackenzie Delta region and when it comes to being ambassadors for the rest of the territories.

Mr. Speaker, the Mackenzie Delta seems to pale in regard to the amount of money that is being spent, especially from the Yukon government when it comes to tourism. In regard to our neighbours in the west, the Yukon spends in the range of $30 million on tourism a year and yet we are lagging when it comes to hosting people from other territories and other parts of the world. Mr. Speaker, the people in the Mackenzie Delta feel that an initiative such as hosting individuals through programs such as the Northern Most Host Workshops, additional tourism training dollars and initiatives to improve how to deal with tourists and how to access tourism dollars to assist in developing the tourism industry for the Mackenzie Delta.

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of my constituents, I would like to ask this government if they cannot access more dollars for such an important initiative and look at the long term viability of this business and develop the appropriate infrastructure that is going to be needed to develop such an important industry. Mr. Speaker, I, for one, feel that this initiative is important enough that the Mackenzie Delta should receive its own tourism planning officer to work for the three Mackenzie Delta communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 496-13(5): Mackenzie Delta Tourism Promotion
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Member's Statement 497-13(5): Recognition Of Inuvik Teacher, Rosie Albert
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to recognize the dedication of one of Inuvik's finest teachers, Mrs. Rosie Albert. Mrs. Albert began employment as an Inuvialuktun instructor at Sir Alexander Mackenzie School on January 7, 1985. She teaches Inuvialuktun to the grades one to six classes at SAMS. For the Inuvialuktun Program, she made all her own class materials and did her own resource development until 1996, when publication on the Inuqatigiit was finished.

In addition to teaching the Inuvialuktun language to her students, she also teaches them other skills such as how to make muqbarak (which is Inuvialuktun for bannock) and beading. Mrs. Albert's muqbarak is famous in the Delta as everyone loves her delicious bannock. Many of her students have gone home with her bannock and beadwork and to proudly show their parents their own work.

Mrs. Albert and Mrs. Bella Kay also host a feast for their students and parents at Christmas time. When asked, her coworkers had this to say about Mrs. Albert: Rosie is always there for anyone who wants to learn Inuvialuktun. She does not laugh at you when you make a mistake. She loves teaching the students and has a lot of patience. Despite her arthritis, Mrs. Albert walks to and from school every day without complaint.

Mrs. Albert is famous for her many hilarious stories about the delta from long ago. She also has helped some adults in Inuvik to keep current on language because, as one person says, "Rosie refuses to speak to me in English because she knows I understand Inuvialuktun, so when she speaks to me, it is never in English."

Mrs. Albert has shown incredible dedication to her work by not only developing her own materials and resource development but by teaching her students other skills as well. She has shown a strong commitment to the preservation and promotion of the Inuvialuktun language.

Mrs. Albert will be retiring from her position as Inuvialuktun instructor at the school. Her last day will be June 26, 1998. Her funny stories, her famous muqbarak and her ready smiles will be missed by all at the Sir Alexander Mackenzie School, most notably, the students she has taught to take pride in their language and culture. I would like to thank Mrs. Albert for all the hard work she has done for the students, the parents and for the school. I wish her a happy retirement. You deserve it, Mrs. Albert. Quyanini.

--Applause

Member's Statement 497-13(5): Recognition Of Inuvik Teacher, Rosie Albert
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Member's Statement 498-13(5): Decision To Establish The NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to rise and speak briefly on the decision to strike a Boundaries Commission and the debate that took place in this House yesterday. It was a very interesting debate, and it was a lesson relearned for me of the fluid nature of the politics of this Assembly. Mr. Speaker, the firm ground I thought I was standing on turned out to be a piece of melting ice that disappeared under me faster than food in the Members' lounge. I now have a better understanding of how the Captain of the Titanic felt after he clipped that iceberg. Very clearly, this is an important debate, and a significant decision has been made in this House, which I accept and support. I would encourage people of the western Northwest Territories to take full advantage of the opportunity to appear before the commission when it appears in your community to make your views known on the type of government, and concerns you may have in regard to government and suggestions for any improvements. I will also look forward to having this motion passed in the House tomorrow that will allow us to initiative the commission so that it may get on with the important duties it has before it in the coming months. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Member's Statement 498-13(5): Decision To Establish The NWT Electoral Boundaries Commission
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Steen.

Member's Statement 499-13(5): Inuvialuit Submission On Proposed Park Boundaries
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, later today I will be tabling the submission by the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, the Paulatuk Community Corporation and the Inuvialuit Game Council to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage as part of its review of Bill C-38, a bill to establish the Tuktut Nogait National Park. As Members will recall, in February of this year the various Inuvialuit organizations requested a review of the boundaries of the proposed park to take into consideration new mineral information arising from an aeromagnetic survey flown last fall. The Government of the Northwest Territories agreed to that request, making five of the six signatories willing to consider a change.

The possibility for a review was foreseen under Section 22.1 of the Park Agreement which allows any party to request that the other parties to the agreement review any matter. Unfortunately, the federal government did not see fit to accept this request. In fact, what Ottawa did was to speed up consideration of this bill even though no legislation has been forthcoming to create the Aulavik National Park on Bank's Island, a park which was agreed to several years before the Tuktut Nogait Park agreement was signed.

As the submission covers all the necessary points, I will not repeat them today. However, I do believe one issue of importance to all northerners must be underlined. That is the matter of one set of rules for land and parks south of the 60 and a different set north of the 60. As Members may be aware, Parks Canada just approved a large increase in the number of visitors and hotel facilities permitted in Banff National Park. In effect, this has just shrunk the size of that park significantly. I wonder if the Inuvialuit had Canadian Pacific Hotels as a partner and their land was located closer to Banff and Lake Louise, would the decision on their request be any different? Mr. Speaker, I request unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Member's Statement 499-13(5): Inuvialuit Submission On Proposed Park Boundaries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Nunakput is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Steen, you have unanimous consent.