This is page numbers 717 - 740 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was policy.

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Supplementary To Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. The question is referred to the honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Public Works and Services, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will try to respond to the Member's questions. The way the system works is that as the bids come in, a local bid is allowed 5 percent more than a territorial bid that is not local. In other words, a local bid would be allowed a 20 percent preference.

As an example, Mr. Speaker, if we received a bid from down south that was lower than any bid we received in the Territories, the territorial bids would then be calculated to see if they qualify for a 15 percent reduction or 20 percent reduction, and then those totals compared to the southern bid to see if in fact the territorial bid is lower. That is how it works. It does not necessarily apply to every portion of a contract that is under an umbrella project.

For instance, if the project is managed as this one is, although it is a $20 million project, it consists of a number of smaller contracts, which could be from anywhere from $100,000 to $4 million or $5 million. The local contractors, in some cases, find themselves bidding on a million-dollar contract, which to them is quite large. That is where we find that there is a possibility that the southern contractors may give us a better bid on portions of the contract.

I hope I am not confusing the thing, but that is basically how this contract is being handled. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Question 242-14(5): Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

June 11th, 2002

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday my colleague for the North Slave spoke about consensus government and how we should work towards improving that system. One of the tools that we have at our disposal is to pass motions in this House or in committee of the whole. Since I have been elected, I have seen the debates take a lot of time and energy and a lot of discussion. At times, there are motions passed. However, I have also recognized that some Ministers choose to ignore the motions that are passed.

I would like to ask the Deputy Premier if there is a protocol or a requirement for Ministers to act on motions that are passed in committee of the whole or in this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the motions that come to the House from Ordinary Members are reviewed by government and the different departments that they are directed to. If appropriate action needs to be taken on those motions, then the decision is made at that time. Yes, every motion is considered and taken very seriously. Whether they are acted upon or not, depending on the nature of the motion, is another thing, but yes, they are taken by government and reviewed. Thank you.

Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I question whether some Ministers take these motions seriously. There are motions that have been passed and some have not received a response for quite some time. I would like to ask if there is a time frame when we could expect some kind of recognition that there is some action being taken on these motions. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as a government, once a motion is made -- again, depending on the nature of the motion -- if it is for the government to take action on certain programs or certain initiatives that require funding, then we take those into consideration when we do the business plans. If it is a matter of concern that does not deal with financial issues or changing programs, then we try to make the necessary changes and we try to respect the nature of those motions.

As for a time frame, again, it depends on the nature of the motion. I think we are obligated, we should be obligated as a government to reply as soon as we can. If not, then the honourable Members should make note of that and let us know in which areas things should improve. I would like to say on behalf of the government that we are open to that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly agree with the Minister that this government should be obligated to respond. I would like to ask if there is any one person from Cabinet, be it the House Leader, the Premier or the Deputy Premier, that is tracking some of these motions that have been passed. Are there Ministers who are delinquent on some of these motions that have been passed either in committee of the whole or in the House? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. There are two questions there and the honourable Deputy Premier can answer whichever one he chooses. Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, each motion is tracked by each department, and the different Ministers are responsible for the type of reaction and response to these motions. As a total government -- I have to check on this and see whether it goes through the Premier's Office or not -- but as a line department Minister, I know that whenever motions go into the different departments, the Minister is responsible for responding to those motions and trying to act on those. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you. That may be part of the problem, that the Ministers are allowed to police themselves when it comes to processing the motions. We have no mechanism and we have no real way of knowing if those motions are taken forward to Cabinet. Will the Deputy Premier consider a mechanism that will allow us to also be able to track where the motions are in terms of proceeding to Cabinet? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the motions from the Ordinary Members are usually motions of recommendation, so it is really up to the different Ministers and departments to take these motions, review them and try to incorporate them into their operations. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Question 243-14(5): Cabinet Response To House And Committee Motions
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up on the questions from my colleague for Hay River North, maybe the Minister of Public Works and Services could answer for me a question about the definition of local when it comes to BIP.

We have heard a lot of discussion today in the House about creating an equal playing field between southern companies and northern companies, but when the local percentage is applied, now we are talking quite often about competition and competitive bids between two northern companies. Then the issue of what is the definition of a local company becomes very important. I will give you a couple of examples.

For example, the headquarters for the departments of the government are all located in Yellowknife. It would stand to reason that those departments would do purchasing on behalf of numerous communities at a time. They would put something out to tender and following that logic that a Yellowknife company would be given local preference, but that does not mean that the product or service consumed is being used in Yellowknife. It could be redistributed across the Territories, and yet it would put Fort Smith, Hay River or Inuvik at a distinct disadvantage.

The issue of local preference is big too, so I would like the Minister of Public Works and Services to tell us what the definition of local is. Thank you.

Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Before we go to the Minister, I would like to just remind Members about the use of long, detailed questions expecting long, detailed answers. Perhaps some of those are better as written questions and allow question period for much shorter questions. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Public Works and Services, Mr. Steen.

Return To Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to accommodate the Member by being able to respond at this point in time. However, I do not have a copy of the Business Incentive Policy in front of me. In the Business Incentive Policy, there would be the specific definition of local. I am going to have to take this question as notice and supply the Member with an accurate description of what is meant by local. Thank you.

Return To Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Question 244-14(5): Local Preference Provision Of The Bip
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The Minister is taking the question as notice. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 245-14(5): Impacts Of Bip Suspension
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is on the cancellation of BIP again, and I think I am posing my question to the Deputy Premier. He has indicated that Cabinet is free to make the decision to cancel a policy like the Business Incentive Policy whenever it deems it appropriate, necessary or whatever. I am assuming that Cabinet is free to do so with every other policy, I do not know. This is creating chaos rather than clarification.

The information we have right now is that there is no information on how much the Cabinet or government will benefit. It could be possible that Members on this side of the House may be able to accept this decision if we can be shown that by lifting or cancelling this BIP policy, the government stands to gain millions of dollars or whatever, but we do not have any evidence of that. Could the Minister provide that please?

Question 245-14(5): Impacts Of Bip Suspension
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.