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Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yeah, if she can answer my question. Thank you.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Madam Chair, can I switch my witnesses?

Committee Motion 312-19(2): Bill 48: Arbitration Act - Deletion of Clause 77, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Yes. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witness out and bring the new witness in.

Please introduce your witness for the record.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, still with me is my deputy minister Steve Loutitt, but added to my table here is my assistant deputy minister for energy and strategic initiatives Robert Jenkins.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

So Member for Monfwi, did you want to repeat your question.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

We know that when this access -- Whati transmission line goes through, we know that it's going to lower the cost of electricity in the community. So I know Gameti were expressing interest as well. They wanted to see if it is possible to extend the Whati transmission line on to Gameti and from there to the Snare Hydro. I did ask that question before. Is there any way that we can, you know, include Gameti, you know, to extend the Whati transmission line to Gameti and then, you know -- because they want to have -- they want to have the same benefit as Whati. So that was their interest. That's what they expressed. So I just wanted to ask about that if it is possible. But I know Tlicho government probably already talked to you guys about it so I'm just asking.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, so one of the projects that we are looking at in Gameti -- well, first of all, I think I heard a couple questions in there, but one of them was the Whati transmission line and some of the work going forward. You know, we are looking at estimation completion date, if everything goes well, in 2026-2027. So we are still in the early planning stages of the Whati transmission line, including consultation, engineering, environmental scoping. So that work is still underway. We have an agreement signed with the Tlicho government to be able to undertake most of this work. So that's the Member's first question. And I do want to just mention for the Gameti, we are looking at mini hydro. And if I can just have Mr. Jenkins speak a little bit more about the project there. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

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Jenkins

Thank you, Madam Chair. So as the Minister mentioned, for the Whati T-line next year, we're doing some work with the Tlicho government right now on the routing for that project and hope to be available to advance that to a decision point of whether we pursue federal funding for that project.

In Gameti, we've been looking at a mini hydro study there. We did update some pre-feasibility work in June of this year. And it does look like there is sufficient water available to meet the community power needs.

So in terms of our planned work for next fiscal year, we're going to continue with some of the technical studies in the planning and move that forward -- that project forward in conjunction with the Tlicho government. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yeah, thank you. I did say it before, we all know the mine will be closing soon and there's going to be an influx of mine workers without jobs. So we did say that -- and I note Tlicho government or Gameti were expressing interest in that as well to have all-season road. And so -- because there's going to be a lot of workers with class 4, class 3, or heavy equipment operator. So they did ask about that. So I just want to ask the Minister if that plan is in place as well, you know, for future discussions and if there's any studies done on it and how much would it cost.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, that's not in the plan right now to proceed with that work. Yes, you know, that's -- do you want to add something further? If I can, deputy minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister, Loutitt.

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Loutitt

Thank you, Madam Chair. The MLA is correct that, you know, with the diamond mines closing, there does need to be plans for additional work to sustain and help the economy along. We have some large projects that are, you know, in different areas in the North Slave and up through the Slave Geological Province is one of them and the Mackenzie Valley. These projects create opportunities for employment for the communities. And until such time said mines is -- as we know the Slave Geological Province Road goes into one of the most mineral rich areas of the world and will create mining opportunities. And in the interim, that would be the construction phase would create those jobs at that point. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Thank you for the information. Yes, I know -- well, the all-season road and the elders were saying that there is a route, an existing route, an old road from 20, 30 years ago. So they were saying that it's going to be a lot -- the planning, and it should be a lot easier. This is what they were saying. So it is possible. So I just wanted to ask if it's not part of the plan, can we put it -- make it part of the plan because with the high cost of living and the people are expressing frustration because with the fuel price going up and everything is flying in and diesel are being used for energy source. So I think they are -- it's hard -- everybody is experiencing financial hardship. It's not just in Tlicho communities but in all the small communities, especially within the fly-in communities so that is why I was expressing that if we can make it part of the plan, you know, because once the diamond mines close, not everybody's going to be working on the proposed project as you just mentioned. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Infrastructure.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, before I turn it over to my deputy minister to speak a little bit more about some of the alignment that's happened in the past, but I mean, you know, we are happy to have that discussion to be able to talk about it. Doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get done and put on our capital list but, I mean, we'd be happy to be able -- to again work with the Indigenous group, have that discussion, work with the MLA, and, you know, find a place to be able to at some point perhaps get it on the books. If I can, Madam Chair, get deputy minister Loutitt to speak a little bit more about some of the past on the project. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister Loutitt.

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Loutitt

Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, I agree with the MLA. I think that, you know, should we have a project come forward of this magnitude, I think that's something that we would definitely have to be working with our Indigenous partners and looking at gaining that traditional knowledge and the local knowledge of the landscape. We shouldn't be making those decisions without working with the communities. So if there is an alignment when it comes down to that phase, we would certainly be working with the community members and with the elders to determine the best course. But, and as the Minister noted, we -- it isn't on the books at this point but it certainly, you know, could become a mandate item in the future. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yes, thank you. Yes, I know that nothing can be done without consulting, you know, with any -- so you have to do a lot of -- there's lots involved, I am aware of that with planning to have this project, if it ever gets approved or, you know, if it ever gets on the agenda. So I am aware of that. And the deputy minister did mention North Slave region, you know. Here I keep saying it, we're not part of North Slave region. It would be nice, you know, just to identify the Tlicho region itself, then I would -- we would really know what is being, you know -- what are the projects that's going to be -- you know, it's going to be worked on in Tlicho region itself. Here 20 percent in North Slave region. So it would be nice, maybe Minister of Finance can change that later on that, you know, with the -- or with Infrastructure. But it's just that it would be nice to -- for all the departments to recognize Tlicho region. We are not part of North Slave region because this is a bit misleading, and it's mostly Yellowknife, you know. So I just wanted to say that to make note of that if -- for future planning or future projects or anything like that, I would like to see Tlicho region, not North Slave region, then I will really know what is being proposed or what is being planned for my region. Thank you.