Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' Statements. Mrs. Thompson.

Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to share with Members some of our more recent empowerment successes. In Mr. Krutko's riding of Mackenzie Delta, the Aklavik Aboriginal Committee has taken on the transfer of the government liaison function. With the assistance of a seconded government staff member, the Aklavik Aboriginal Committee is developing plans for further community control of programs.

Tulita, Norman Wells, Deline and the K'asho Got'ine Council in Fort Good Hope are four of the 15 communities which have taken on responsibility for the economic development function. As illustrated by the many economic development transfers, the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, continues to be a strong supporter of increased community control over community decision-making.

In the Keewatin, all seven hamlets are working towards taking on ownership and responsibility for airport operations on April 1, 1997. This will be the first complete transfer of a program to all community governments within one region and will enable these community governments to share the costs for common specialized services. My colleague, the Honourable Jim Antoine and staff from the Department of Transportation, are working closely with Keewatin municipalities to conclude the transfer agreements.

As well, a number of Keewatin communities have expressed interest in the transfer of Public Works and Services and Housing Corporation functions. Completion of these transfers would see the integration of ownership, maintenance and management functions under the community government.

Under the direction of the Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, the consolidation of maintenance functions, through some 54 program transfers at the community level, are progressing well with the combined support of staff from Public Works and Services and the NWT Housing Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, these are only a few of the community empowerment successes. Many more communities are pursuing community empowerment opportunities. Soon I will share with Members a more detailed progress report on the community empowerment transfers completed to date. In the end, Mr. Speaker, we are giving communities what they have been asking for. We are giving responsibility of programs, services and infrastructure at the community level to communities, so they have community control to make decisions and manage their own affairs.

I look at these opportunities as a positive challenge for us all. While we work together to find solutions to outstanding empowerment issues, we must continue to work in partnership with communities to ensure community empowerment is successful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Jim Antoine will be late arriving into the House today as he is attending the official opening of the Fort Liard Community Hall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good morning to my colleagues. I have every reason to smile this morning. I have my tooth back. Mr. Speaker, many times in this House we talk about youth. Unfortunately, we are often speaking about the problems that face them, things like alcohol and drug abuse, teen suicide, peer pressure and lack of jobs. It is easy to focus on youth with problems. I would like to remind everyone there are a lot of good, young people out there doing good things in their communities. In Broughton Island, there is a group of young people who are making a difference. They are the Youth Committee. They do many positive things

together, promoting healthy and productive life choices. They give each other support to make the right choices in their lives.

Mr. Speaker, last October, they travelled here to Yellowknife to meet with me and have new experiences. This winter they continue doing good things in the community. For example, they organized hunting trips. The food from these trips was then shared with elders and other people in the community. Mr. Speaker, with young people like those on the Youth Committee in Broughton Island, I know the future of Nunavut will be good in hands. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of discussion about affirmative action in the GNWT hiring practices during the life of this Assembly. We are awaiting the results of the affirmative action review carried out by the government in 1995. I think we are wasting our time and energies on this policy. Despite efforts over the past 11 years, we are not much further ahead than we were in 1985, the year the Native Employment Policy was put into effect. About 30 percent of GNWT staff, at that time, were aboriginal. The latest figure, at 36 percent, shows very little improvement. Certainly nowhere close to the government's 50 percent goal.

Mr. Speaker, I believe we all want a public service that is competent and, if possible, reflective of the population it serves. The first goal of a hiring policy should be competency because the taxpayers deserve the best value for their money. Industry succeeds when it hires the brightest and best people. We should expect no less from our government. In a perfect world, our public service would be both competent and representative of the population it serves. Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, we do not live in a perfect world.

Why has the affirmative action policy not worked? I believe it has not worked, nor will it ever work, as long as 60 percent in our target group have less than the grade 10 education required for entry level to most government jobs. Even now, aboriginal people are over-represented in government among those who have Grade 10 education required for government jobs.

Mr. Speaker, the only way we can increase aboriginal employment beyond the current 36 percent, and maintain competency within the public service, is to increase education levels among aboriginal people. This is not going to happen overnight. Let us be realistic. I believe the affirmative action policy is doing little to help aboriginal people meet the government's minimum hiring requirements. The problem is not that the hiring system works against aboriginal people, but rather the government, and previous ones, has assumed that aboriginal people, who have successfully worked off the land for generations, are motivated to take government jobs and assumed they will be instantly successful in making the transition to an office, administrative environment. These jobs require different skills and many aboriginal people are still gaining the skills necessary to be successful in the office environment.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Member for Yellowknife South is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Henry, you have unanimous consent.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, Members. These jobs require different skills and many aboriginal people are still gaining these skills necessary to be successful in the office environment. Instead of trying to set goals that lead to frustration and a perception of failure, let us celebrate the advances aboriginal people have made. Let us encourage them to get an education and acquire the skills necessary to be successful in government jobs and in that environment. Policies such as affirmative action cheapen the value of jobs earned on merit. Jobs earned on merit provide a sense of pride and independence.

Mr. Speaker, the Affirmative Action Policy puts aboriginal people down. It tells them they are not good enough to compete without government protection. This is totally wrong. Mr. Speaker, I believe we should scrap the Affirmative Action Policy. As northern people become more educated, they will be ready and able to compete for the jobs available. We will have a workforce representative of the general population as people gain more skills. The Affirmative Action Policy has proven it will not help us get there faster. This government, nor any other, can have on its books a policy that is as divisive and destructive as the Affirmative Action Policy has been and still is. It will continue to divide northerners as long as it remains in place. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by giving an overview of the evaluation of ERS services at Iqaluit Airport. Mr. Speaker, I have continually sought commitments from this government that, at the very least, this government commit to providing proper training to

the volunteer fire department in Iqaluit, to fight and respond to airport incidents and the fire department be provided with the proper equipment for these responses. Our study concludes the findings of the Avery Cooper report which may not be entirely accurate or complete for the following reasons.

Reaction of Airline Users:

The reality is air carriers may indeed have a problem with the removal of the current style of ERS, depending upon the nature and operability of alternate fire/safety arrangements made available in the future.

Airline representatives indicate that a significant change in the status of ERS services are worrisome because they will likely be a lessening in quality or speed of response -- amounting to an effective reduction in safety. Definitive statements from airline management on the evolving safety situation at Iqaluit, however, will be contingent upon complete knowledge of the specifics of alternative arrangements that might be made to cover the ERS function.

Reaction of the Military:

The military, on the other hand, consider Category 5 ERS protection available at Iqaluit as their current preferred minimum threshold for CF-18 training purposes. At FOL locations where this is not provided on an ongoing basis, they have had three options in the past: Fly in their own Category 5 foam-truck-tanker and crews prior to exercises, such as in Rankin Inlet, work with a former armed forces-owned pre-positioned truck on a co-operative basis with the local civilian airport authority, like they are doing in Inuvik, or make the decision to operate without fire ERS protection. That is only within the authority of the Winnipeg Command structure.

Later today, Mr. Speaker, I will be tabling the report from the consultant that I hired out of my constituency budget to overview and review the Avery Cooper report. I will also be asking questions to the appropriate Ministers in this House, including Mr. Todd and some of his colleagues, on providing the safety training and also the equipment. My point, Mr. Speaker, is that there is no way you can expect the department to react to instances at the airport if they do not have the proper equipment or the training. They cannot fight a fire with a water bottle. You need a foam truck at the airport. I think this is an area of safety and concern and this government has to look at it and it is necessary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Kakfwi. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is not for my honourable colleague, the communist colleague over there who speaks Russian, Mr. Todd, as I just read in the Hansard. It is for the other good Minister we have over there. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister, Ms. Thompson, responsible for EMO, inform this House if there are monies available to help assist, train and provide equipment upgrades for the Iqaluit Volunteer Fire Department, so they can respond to emergencies at the Iqaluit airport when the ERS is phased out on the 31st of March, 1997? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In June of 1994, a three year training program was approved along with funding for the first year of 1995-96, so there is a program for training fire fighters at the community level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I realize there is training for the local fire fighters but that is stick fire fighting, which is houses, wooden structures, so on. In this case, the training I am asking for is specific, specialized training to be delivered for the airport fire fighters who have to respond to crashes and burns of airplanes, which is a separate and different type of fire than at the residential level. Can the Minister inform me if that type of training is available?

Ms. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand what the Member is saying. We will assess the department's fire fighting training and we will deal with the problems in Iqaluit within the department and see how we can help them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is indeed good news. After asking x number of Ministers for some help, I am glad to see we have a Minister who is willing to step in this type of an emergency situation. My follow-up question to the Minister, the training is one aspect of the fire fighting services at the airport. The second aspect is the equipment. As I said earlier, you cannot expect them to fight a fire with a water bottle. At the present time the fire equipment in Iqaluit is dedicated for the structures I talked about earlier, residential, commercial buildings, not for planes. Can the Minister tell me if there is money available to help us upgrade the equipment at the airport, so we can actually fight airport fires in that type of eventuality? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Ms. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must be a woman taking this responsibility very seriously.

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We will do an assessment on the program with the department and I will get back to the Member. I will take that as the best thing.

The question was taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Premier.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a policy is developed by this government, the Department of Justice does play a role in the development of that policy to give legal advice. In my understanding, the affirmative action policy is a workable policy that would stand up in a court of law. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Premier.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We think it is and the law does provide that when you have different peoples living in a certain jurisdiction and if they are under-represented in the workforce, it allows you to develop policies to make sure they are represented in the workforce. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thirty-six percent represents all of the government. It is 36 percent throughout. It does not specifically apply to certain sectors. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have that information at my fingertips as the Member does. I will take it as notice.

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health. Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding the only mammography unit located in the Northwest Territories is here in Yellowknife. My question is, is that correct? Mr. Speaker.

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the honourable Member is correct. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Mr. Speaker, the advantage of early mammograms is that it can detect cancer before there is a lump. Has the Department of Health looked at locating and purchasing available portable screening units to be made available at the regional centres, so these tests or screens can be done closer to home? I think everyone realizes the embarrassment of having to do these tests, especially away from home. My question is to the Minister, is the department looking at purchasing the available portable screening units and locating them in the regional centres so mammographs can be done closer to home? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been considered, but as I have indicated in the past the capital requests do come from the boards and we support them if the priority and need is there. To date there has not been any specific requests for those portable mammography units. I would like to say it is an important part of breast cancer screening, but it is just as important to recognize annual clinic examinations and self-examinations are also an important part of possible early detection of breast cancer, Mr. Speaker.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been doing a little bit of research into this area and I understand the advantage to the mammograph is that it can detect cancer before it is felt by touch, which is very important. My follow-up question to the Minister is; if he is telling me we do not have the portable units in the communities in the regional centres, it is because the health boards for those regions have not requested said equipment. Is that correct? Is that what he is saying? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that is part of the reason. I believe what is also important to recognize is that the other health boards have not placed such a high priority on this type of equipment, whether there have been other capital requirements and capital needs they have put a higher priority on than portable mammography units, Mr. Speaker.

Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

The Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.

The question is taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, although I have not had a chance to speak to my staff yet on the specifics of it, I have asked for an update on what information is available on breast cancer screening. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes we can provide or make sure the information is available out in the communities, if it is not already. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Ng.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot commit to that at this time because of the fact that I do not know what is out there and how much additional costs it would entail to provide it in all aboriginal languages. I can make the commitment that we will make sure people who are unilingual will have access through personnel in the communities to the information whether it is through the community health representatives or other health care officials working in the communities. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe earlier, reading through my budget review, I did commit to Mr. Steen for Nunakput that we would bring everybody up-to-date in the late May/June session. I think this whole issue about how far are we there, what is happening, et cetera, I think the issue Mr. Roland speaks to is an important one. There is a problem in that, where is the cut-off, when do you move on? I am fairly optimistic given that the sale of staff housing units is moving very quickly. I would be hesitant today to put a date to it, but I would recognize at some point there has to be a cut-off, and we can then move towards transferring those houses that are vacant, that are no longer required, over to my colleague, Mr. Arlooktoo, so he can then move forward and, in some small way, try to alleviate this severe housing shortage in some of our communities. So, sooner rather than later, I guess would be my only accurate reply to it. We are optimistic that by the end of fiscal year, which is the end of March, most of our housing sales program will be concluded. Certainly, if I commit today that we will bring you up-to-date in the late May/June session, that would be an appropriate timeline. We can move forward to transferring those houses, et cetera. Discussions are under way at the present time between myself, Mr. Arlooktoo and the staff, to accommodate that very important, budgetary initiative. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My honourable colleague made an interesting point. I think it is very important for me to say clearly and without any jest, this is a serious issue. It was a serious initiative on the part of Cabinet and the budget that we want to work quickly, because there is an enormous housing shortage out there. Now it is also important to clarify this is an initiative that will make a small dent in a very large problem, as my colleague has said publicly about his new initiatives in the Housing Corporation's Housing 2000 Plan. This is just part and parcel of trying to find a way in which to get some interim relief for a difficult housing shortage. It is recognized by all of us that we need to move quickly and I am not trying to avoid being definitive as to when we can do it. Sooner rather than later would be the only way I would be able to qualify it, because I am still waiting to see the results of the second phase of the staff housing. Again, if I can repeat it, we are optimistic most of that will be concluded by the end of March. Mr. Arlooktoo advised me when I was sitting down, that there are discussions under way right now, trying to identify potential houses that will be vacant and no longer required that we could then transfer. It is not like nothing is happening. Discussions are under way. I think we will be able to move fairly quickly, certainly by May/June. Thank you.

Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the Premier of the Northwest Territories, Mr. Morin, was in Ottawa this past week meeting with some Fisheries people. Maybe I could ask a question on his meeting with Fisheries, or maybe to the Minister of RWED. My question is for the Minister of RWED or the Premier, whoever wants to answer it, concerning, in my riding, the allocation of fishing licences and quotas in the areas adjacent to Baffin Island. They are being prosecuted by the Inuit of Baffin and the Kekertaluk Corporation. Can the Minister inform this House as to the status of these allocations and if his department or if the Premier, in his discussions, have been monitoring it and can give us an update? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier. Two questions.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the initial question on this issue since I just got back from the Atlantic Council of Fisheries Ministers meeting, which was a very interesting meeting. We, as a government, have not been tracking the quotas in the Atlantic fishery for some time now and it has been a concern to us that these quotas do not reflect the true Atlantic fishery. Approximately 36 percent of the Atlantic fishery is adjacent to Baffin Island and is in the Nunavut settlement area. I believe, on the ground fish, we have approximately 11 percent of the quota and for shrimp, it was nine percent. We raised that issue with the Atlantic Council of Fisheries Ministers and we raised it quite aggressively. We want to see a better quota allocated to the Baffin region and we want our fair share of that allocation.

We, as northerners, have no problem sharing a resource with some southern fishermen, but it should better reflect what is actually adjacent to our fishing area. The fishery in the Davis Inlet right now represents approximately $3.5 million to the Baffin economy, so we have to make sure we try to increase that. We have general support from other Ministers on the adjacency issue. As well, we made it very clear to the federal Minister that his government has to live up to the claim they have signed with the Nunavut people. The federal Minister has the final decision on quotas in that area. We voiced very strongly that we do not want to see an increase in quota without the proper, scientific knowledge to back up that increase, because we do not want to see that fishery go like other fisheries in southern Canada have gone, over-harvested and then everybody loses.

We seem to have an agreement that they will look at the scientific information they have and, if they increase, we seem to have support that they will take a serious look at the Inuit residents getting those licences. We did have general support from New Brunswick, Newfoundland, as well as the other Atlantic provinces on our issues. So, all in all, the meeting went fairly well and I came out of that meeting feeling as if we did accomplish something and they know the Northwest Territories is part of that Atlantic fishery. We have also invited them up to the Baffin for their next meeting, so hopefully we can accommodate that as well. In the end, the federal Minister will make the decision. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you. Mr. Speaker. It must have been a fairly good meeting and I am glad to see that the Ministers may indeed come to the Baffin and hold another meeting. My follow-up question to the Minister, will this government be following up on his initial meeting this past weekend to direct this government to actually sit down with the federal Minister of Fisheries, Mr. Mifflin, and to lobby on behalf of our fishermen? And also invite other major stakeholders, like Kekertaluk Corporation, to the meeting so the stakeholders themselves can be involved in the front-line, so they understand what is happening to the allocations and the situation regarding the quotas. So, my question would be to the Premier or the Minister of RWED, is he looking at a follow-up meeting, specifically with the federal Minister of Fisheries, Mr. Mifflin, on the adjacency and also on the awarding of quotas. Last year, we missed the boat on this. This year, we would like to see an increase in our quotas and look at some of the straggling stocks which are located in the B1 and the area adjacent to the Davis Strait and also the area south of Resolution Island.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department will be following up with the department people in Ottawa. We were not planning on an immediate follow-up meeting with the Minister of Fisheries for the federal government. We stated our case very strongly, we made our points. They fully understand that we have to be involved. He has agreed to consult and he has consulted, to a certain extent. We feel quite comfortable that we put the case across quite strongly and they will pay attention. As far as follow-up, the staff will do the follow-up. We represent the Northwest Territories at the table and I did not see any provincial governments bring in fishermen or fishing companies to the table. It is between government and government. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Premier earlier said the Fisheries Ministers will be coming to the Baffin. Can the Minister tell this House when that meeting will be taking place and where in the Baffin are they going to have that meeting?

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Normally, for any Ministers' meeting, there is a revolving of where it happens. For example, this time it happened in New Brunswick. Next time it may happen in Newfoundland or Prince Edward Island, but it does revolve. What we made very clear is that we are part of Atlantic Fisheries, to put us into the loop so the Northwest Territories can host a meeting as well. We invited them to the Northwest Territories. We invited them, I believe it was to Pangnirtung, to come up and have a Ministers' of Fisheries meeting of the Atlantic provinces in the Pang area. Our staff will work on that so it will happen some time in the future but when, I do not know. Thank you.

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as Members of this House, we have had briefings from the Power Corporation and WCB regarding what both of the organizations will look like after division. The briefing of the

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to point out the WCB is funded by private sector contributions and not through the government grant system. My understanding is they are putting together a division plan. I think the intent certainly is, as is for the Power Corporation, to make sure these things are self-financing. I would believe that would be the approach the WCB would be taking. I know they are recommending, and I believe what the NIC and others have recommended, it stay as one at this time for what they call the cost-related factors and the fact that you have some economies of scale. I think it would be fair to say that is the intent, although whether I could confirm today that will in fact happen, it would be difficult. But certainly that is the intent. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister stated what the intent of the organizations are. I appreciate that. As additional information does come available, I would like assurances from the Minister that both organizations, east and west, will get a look at the information for a final decision, before an irreversible decision takes place on the Power Corporation and WCB, but WCB in particular stay together as one organization. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me answer this way, we have developed attitude reports with respect to the assets and liabilities as it relates to division. We are in the throes of concluding our third report. In these reports, we have talked about the strategy and the initiative that have to be taken, both with the WCB and with the Power Corporation. I think it would be fair to say there will be significant debate in this house and in committee before any final decision is made on what strategy we take in respect to both these large assets and liabilities out there. Thank you.

Oral questions. Oral questions, Mr. Ootes.

The Premier.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The affirmative action policy covers aboriginal people as well as the long-term northerners, people who are born and raised or lived over half their lives in the Northwest Territories. The 36 percent entails all of those people. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I do not have the numbers the Member has in front of him. I do not have that information at my hands, my fingertips. In order to answer his question, I would have to get that information. Thank you.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I do not have the numbers the Member is referring to. I do not know if he is correct or not. Thank you.

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

I was just asked if the Premier would like to express his opinion.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No thanks.