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Further Return To Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the Minister should get full marks for the hard work that has been put into this particular issue in trying to bring it to the state it is at, but the reality is it would be unfortunate for all of this hard work to go to waste or be for not, because it is not signed off and there is no agreement, if we go to division and our separate ways with this Gordian knot of pay equity and an unsettled benefit agreement on the table for both territories. Could the Minister indicate, are they looking at any creative solutions or ways to avoid that with sort of a plan B recognizing fully that the union has to take it to the membership and they cannot be forced to do that? It is a situation that we have worked too hard not to try to have a successful conclusion. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

We are obligated by law and by the collective agreement to behave in a certain way. I say to you that I think that we have acted honourably. We have provided in a concise, civilized and professional way all the information that we have brought forward. I cannot for the life of me understand why they are not prepared to take it to the people. We have to work hard to find the funds necessary to conclude this important long-term issue. On top of that, some Members of the House, who have every right to say, have asked that we try to reallocate and find new monies for a variety of other initiatives. There is a limited ability of this government because of its inability to generate revenues to be able to do that. This is a fair, reasonable, affordable settlement. Let the people vote.

--Hear! Hear!

Further Return To Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 618-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions Mr. Rabesca.

Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in my Member's statement today, the Community Service Board has now been operating since May 22, 1997. Although this organization is operating, it does not have the legal capabilities to provide necessary programs and services, as a result of this government not having legislation currently in place to provide for this. As I also stated previously, I am prepared to continue with the final draft of a private Member's bill to establish the Community Service Board. However, I would like to get the Ministers of Education, Culture and Employment and Health and Social Services views on this. Could the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, the Honourable Charles Dent, please inform this House as to what his department is prepared to do with regard to this matter? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Return To Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member raised this issue earlier this session, and I actually have in draft form a letter which should be ready to provide to the Member in the next day or so. Briefly, Mr. Speaker, my department is working in consultation with the Department of Health and Social Services to review the proposed amendments that we will be bringing forward to the Social Assistance Act. We expect to have that consultation work done this month. We will also then consult with the Dogrib Community Services Board to make sure, in fact, that the amendments will meet their needs. The amendments should be ready to be brought forward to this House in the October sessions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Question 619-13(5): Dogrib Community Services Board Legislation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions, Mr. Roland.

Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time, will be directed to the Minister responsible for FMBS. We have heard on numerous occasions the concerns with where things lie with, the UNW and the GNWT. There was a concern raised and I need to ask this question. How long will this last? You have said that it is up to the UNW

to make a decision if they want to put it out to a vote. If that does not happen in the next bit, would you be willing to let the offer sit there until at least the fall sitting? Thank you.

Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

The government is under inordinate pressure. You have heard the lobbying that has gone on by the NWTTA and the teachers, et cetera with respect to the need for more money in education. Nobody, including the Minister, is denying there is a need for it. You have heard Mr. Ng talk passionately about the need for compassionate travel. Nobody is denying there is a need for it. You have heard everybody talk about health care and the need for more money. Nobody is denying the need for it. We have a budgetary process. We have x-amount of dollars we spend. We made a conscious decision through committee and a collective effort to identify where the money is going to go. I am telling you today that unless we get the issue to go to the membership, I do not think it is going to be resolved during the tenure of this Legislative Assembly. I am trying to put it in the context of the overall fiscal framework of this government and all the needs that we have. We need to meet the needs of those who are in the collective bargaining system. We need to meet the needs of those that are not. We need to meet the needs of those who are less fortunate and do not have the capacity to generate an effective lobby. We need to meet the needs of all the issues which have been raised here and that is the responsibility of government. The process that we have dealt with is through the budgetary process. In the overall fiscal framework of the government, we have identified $40 million. There is no more money.

Return To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am well aware of the budgetary process. That was not my question. If there is no movement on behalf of the UNW to put this out to its members for a vote, will this offer remain out there until our fall sitting when we would have an opportunity as a Legislative Assembly to review any further work that has been done? Will this offer be out there or will you change as the process allows? At the end of the line of this process, will you change the collective agreement on your own? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
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John Todd Keewatin Central

We have said consistently and my Cabinet colleagues and the Premier have supported the position, we think this is a fair and reasonable offer. It was never identified before in the budget, rightly or wrongly. It was not there. We have identified what we think is a fair and reasonable offer on the retroactivity side, on the ongoing cost side and on the collective agreement side. We are banking that money. We will leave it in place. There are inordinate pressures on all of us. You have heard the Members talk about the need for reallocation of dollars, et cetera. If you are going to reallocate dollars and if Cabinet has to consider reallocating dollars for one particular program versus another, it has to be done in the context of the overall budget and the overall needs and priorities of government. It cannot be done any other way. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Question 620-13(5): Resolution Of Collective Bargaining Impasse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Question period is over. The Member for High Arctic is asking to recognize in the gallery Cecil and Jacklyn Marshall, the SAO and EDO in the Hamlet of Arctic Bay. Welcome to the Assembly.

--Applause

Item 7, written questions. Mr. Enuaraq.

Written Question 20-13(5): Clyde River Nursing Shortage
Item 7: Written Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My written question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services, the Honourable Mr. Ng.

1. Will the Minister advise me when will the community of Clyde River be allocated more nurses?

2. Does the Minister believe that a 400 to 1, population to nurse ratio, is reasonable?

3. What is the population to nurse ratio in Yellowknife and other regional centres?

4. Will the Minister tell me if there is a specific recruitment program that will ensure more nurses and doctors will serve and reside full time in remote communities?

Thank you.

Written Question 20-13(5): Clyde River Nursing Shortage
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Written questions. Mr. Henry.

Written Question 21-13(5): Federal Bureaucrats Working On NWT Issues
Item 7: Written Questions

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My written question is to the Premier, Minister responsible for Intergovernmental Affairs. My question follows up on comments he made earlier today regarding federal bureaucrats in Ottawa making decisions for the north.

1. Can the Premier ascertain for this House the number of federal bureaucrats working on issues that directly impact the residents of the Northwest Territories who live in parts of Canada outside the Northwest Territories?

2. How many of these individuals have visited the Northwest Territories in the past 12 months? 3.How many days did they stay in the Northwest Territories?

4. What means do southern-based DIAND officials use to determine how the residents of the Northwest Territories feel on a particular topic or issue?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Written Question 21-13(5): Federal Bureaucrats Working On NWT Issues
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Written questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Written Question 22-13(5): Removal Of Records From Court Registries
Item 7: Written Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Justice.

1. Criminal records held in Territorial and Federal Court registries can be searched and accessed when necessary. How long do these criminal convictions stay on a person's file at a court registry?

2. Is there a mechanism whereby a person could seek to have his or her record removed from legal court registries earlier through some type of a pardon process?

3. If so, what body, board or agency would consider requests for the removal of a record of criminal charge or conviction from a court registry?

4. If such a process is accessible, what are the reasons which would be given consideration for a charge or conviction to be removed from a court registry?

5. Is a list of these removed records available through any source?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Written Question 22-13(5): Removal Of Records From Court Registries
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. On behalf of the Member for Amittuq, I would like to recognize George Qulaut from Igloolik. Welcome to the Assembly.

--Applause

Written Question 22-13(5): Removal Of Records From Court Registries
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees, Mr. Picco.

Committee Report 8-13(5): Review Of The Report Of The Auditor General On The Department Of Municipal And Community Affairs
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

June 1st, 1998

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Standing Committee on Infrastructure is pleased to present its Review of the Report of the Auditor General on the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. The 13th Assembly's committee structure enables the Standing Committee on Infrastructure to consider the Auditor General's comments and recommendations in conjunction with other relevant issues that have been examined by the committee. The Legislative Assembly requested the Auditor General, on October 8, 1996, to conduct an independent review of how the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs assesses and determines the financial health of the communities through municipal reporting processes. The Auditor General's report was tabled in the Legislative Assembly on February 18, 1998 and was referred to the Standing Committee on Infrastructure for review. The standing committee met to discuss the Auditor General's report from Monday, April 20, 1998, to Wednesday, April 22, 1998. The deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and her staff appeared as witnesses before the committee and took the opportunity to present additional responses to the Auditor General's Report.

Mr. Speaker, the committee also received a briefing from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs on April 22, 1998 on monitoring and evaluating for community development responses. This initiative is intended to ensure that the community development is goal oriented and client focused, states expected results, commits to high quality programs and services, specifically measures performance and allocates limited resources according to priority.

Members of the Standing Committee on Infrastructure appreciate the cooperation of the deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and her staff in appearing before the committee, responding to the Members' request for information and providing their perspective on the issues being considered. Committee Members carefully considered all information provided. Finally, the committee Members appreciate the helpful participation of the principal Auditor and staff from the Edmonton office of the Auditor General for Canada.

The objective of the office of the Auditor General of Canada was to conduct an independent review of how the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs assesses and determines the financial health of communities through financial reporting and other processes.

In addition, the office of the Auditor General had three subobjectives:

- to acquire sufficient understanding and information to enable the office of the Auditor General to identify significant issues and management activities pertaining to municipal financing,

- to inform the Members of the Legislative Assembly and others about current and potential issues in municipalities that have financial and accountability issues and

- to provide comments and observations on municipal management from both the local and the departmental side.

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the introductory comments on Committee Report 8-13(5), Report of the Standing Committee on Infrastructure on its Review of the Report of the Auditor General on the Department of Municipal and Community affairs. I would seek unanimous consent, Mr. Speaker, to wave rule 93(4), and have the report ordered into the Committee of the Whole for today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.