Mr. Chairman, I think that we would put it in our supplementary because we need it. I do not know how to respond to the Member other than to say that I do not believe the department would put in a request for a supplementary and I would not support it if we could wait. We do have some needs that we have to address immediately and included in that is our ability to meet contributions from the federal government.
Debates of Nov. 16th, 2000
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
How soon will we receive the contribution from the federal government to see if we can use these as matching funds from this government? Are we talking until after the election? Do we wait until the federal Cabinet is appointed? Is there going to be a budget coming forth? How much time are we talking here? Are we talking months here, days, years?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, we have already negotiated an agreement, so I would expect it is a matter of days or weeks before we receive the money. I do not have a fixed date yet, but it will certainly be within this fiscal year and well in time for us to make plans for the winter road. The federal government is very much aware of the deadlines we work under. Thank you.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Krutko touched on what I was already going to say, which is, if you are not going to have the money from the federal government, then you do not need the supplementary funding. Minister Steen said that you have until February to make a decision. If you have that long to make a decision, then I do not understand why they need the money so quickly. Thank you.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I think the February deadline is the outside of when we have to get on with this, but we do not have another opportunity to come back here. We need either approval for the money or not. We need to know now, in order to do the planning. We cannot wait. This is a winter road. Winter will not wait. Thank you.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary appropriation, page 3, total supplementary appropriation for capital investment expenditures, $12,355,290.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Bill 12 is now ready for third reading. We will move to Bill 18. Is the Minister prepared for opening comments? Mr. Handley.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, Supplementary Appropriation No. 5 requests authority for the additional appropriations of $635,000 for operation and maintenance expenditures. This request is being made to comply with the authorization process for over expenditures of appropriations as stated in the Financial Administration Act. The authorization process required by the FAA is quite technical and complicated.
However, the office of the Auditor General has noted that regardless of whether the process is practical, the government should follow the letter of the law and obtain the necessary authority for over-expenditures. The over-expenditures are largely attributed to the processing of liabilities that were not recorded in the government's accounting records after the fiscal year ended.
At the conclusion of each fiscal year, there is a period of time when the Financial Management Board Secretariat reviews any unrecorded liabilities with departmental staff prior to finalizing the interim financial report and public accounts. The FAA, as well as generally accepted accounting principles, requires that these liabilities be accrued and charged to the departments appropriation as an expenditure for that fiscal period.
The FAA further requires that if the accruing of a liability causes a department to exceed its appropriation, the amount by which the appropriation is exceeded is an interim appropriation that must be submitted in the form of a supplementary appropriation bill to the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Chairman, I am prepared to review the details of the supplementary appropriation document. Thank you.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley. There is no committee report. Mr. Handley is still joined with Mr. Voytilla and Ms. DeLancey. General Comments? Detail? Stand down the Bill? Turn to detail on page 5, Legislative Assembly, operations and maintenance, various, not previously authorized, $207,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Tab 18, Justice, operations and maintenance, not previously authorized, various, $428,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.