Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is one of the infections, maybe it's a disease. It's one of the infections that we deal with when we look at sexually-transmitted infections. When individuals are identified, then we try to stay aware of where they are, we try to monitor where they are moving to and we, of course, work with them about the critical need of not spreading the disease or the infection. Basically that would be the approach we take. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. How does the Minister and his department not know that

there is not a whole lot more cases that have not been identified for HIV? Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There may be; the Member is correct. There may be cases out there that we aren't aware of that haven't reported in, who haven't been sick enough or come forward as being part of any other kind of blood test or blood work that's being done for other reasons. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, in fact, we could have an epidemic of HIV out there and have no way of warning our people because we just don't know. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the numbers I gave the Member are from the current information in the briefing book put together for this process and are the best numbers we have. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just don't have much faith in those numbers, not that that isn't a true and accurate reporting of what has been identified out there, but in terms of people who may be infected who have not come in contact with the health care system that require them to have any kind of testing or blood work done, I don't put much faith in that number of 36.

The other thing I wanted to pursue a bit further was the move to change the name of STDs to STIs. The government has probably spent a lot of money to try to create awareness around STDs, so that would be a campaign that would have taken place as part of an attempt to limit the incidents of STDs through awareness and education, and to change the name from STD to STI seems to be counterproductive to creating that awareness because it's a name that people wouldn't recognize or understand. Is this something we did just in the Northwest Territories, or is this something that was done on a national basis? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In fact, it's been done on an international basis. I just have some information here from the States, as well as the Public Health Agency of Canada, that speaks to the change of the name and I would be happy to share this information on what the thinking was and why the decision was made to do that.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. I would like to recognize the clock at this time. Thank you, Mr. Minister, and your witnesses, Mr. St. Germaine and Mr. Murray, for your attendance this afternoon. I will rise and report progress.

Item 21, report of Committee of the Whole.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. There's a motion on the floor. Is there a seconder for the motion? The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 22, third reading of bills.

Colleagues, before I go on to the next item on the order paper, I would like to acknowledge and thank all our Pages that we have had here from Mildred Hall School for the week. Good job done, guys.

---Applause

Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until February 21, 2005, at 1:30 p.m.

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The House adjourned at 2:04 p.m.