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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course I do not view it as a crisis, I view it as an opportunity in the purchasing of the staff houses. We will conclude hopefully, despite some of the minor inconveniences and problems we have had over the last little while with the sale of the staff housing, hopefully, by the end of this year. If not, early into the new year. On the matter of leasing, I have said on a consistent basis that this government will continue where need can be established with developers to provide them with either lease guarantees or actual leases with respect to their housing. However, I should say, Mr. Speaker, where developers have had a long term fiscal by this previous governments for a long extended period of time and there is no requirement for borrowing purposes to have a continuing lease commitment, we are not prepared to commit then. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral question, supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The minister keeps talking about developers and to me that means developing new units and so and so forth. My supplementary question to the minister, can he clarify what he means by developers?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr Speaker, if I may use Mr. Picco's riding as an example, as I am sure he will appreciate. He has an organization that has a number of developers in that community both Inuit and non-Inuit developers who we have entered into leases to provide them with the appropriate safety net, if you want, with respect to bankers, to get the long term mortgages they require to build these buildings. Provided they can show that there is a need for the government to continue to provide that security to enable their mortgages to continue, we are prepared to continue to support them. Of course, if I can use another example, in my honourable colleague's riding there is a developer there that has a commitment from this government since 1968, over almost a 30 year commitment and we believe that there is no requirement for the security of the government with respect to mortgaging considering that we have been in those building for 30 years. That is all. It is not the intent to do otherwise. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 52-13(4): Concerns Regarding The Leasing/sale Of Housing In Iqaluit
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral question, supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the minister clarifying that point. My concern here -- and has been and will be and still is - is the consideration that a lot of my constituents are in leased accommodations and this government has been moving out of that. We have had some major problems. I would call it a crisis, where people have been phoning me, wondering will they have a roof over their head. Can the minister confirm that indeed we will continue to lease units from whoever, whatever developer in my constituency so that these tenants working at the hospital, working at the college, so on and so forth will actually have a roof over their heads for the foreseeable future.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I wonder if Mr. Picco, if I could seek some clarification. I am not quite sure if this is fair or not. Would Mr. Picco be referring to the 200 units FDL project?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The time for question period is over. But I will ask the member for Iqaluit to clarify his question.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I think I will take that under advisement.

-- Laughter

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

No, seriously. I was implying that is one of the many leases that are being held, yes.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Let me be direct. If Mr. Picco is referring to the FDL project in which the government in 1968 between Commissioner Hudson and the Honourable Jean Chretien who was the Minister of Indian Affairs at the time, signed off an arrangement which guaranteed those facilities for a 25 to 30 year period. If he is asking me will this government continue to lease and guarantee the leases in that unit, the answer is no.

Further Return To Question 52-13(4): Concerns Regarding The Leasing/sale Of Housing In Iqaluit
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Question period is over. By the authority given the Speaker by motion 3-14(4) the House adjournment for today will be 4:00 pm. We will take a 15 minute break. Exactly.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Returns to written questions. Item 9, Replies to Opening Address. Item 10, Petitions. Item 11, Report of Standing and Special Committees. Item 12, Reports on Committees on the Review of Bills. Item 13, Tabling of Documents. Mr. Ng.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table two documents, Northwest Tabled Document 10-13(4), Territories Law Foundation 14th Annual Report for the fiscal year, ending June 30, 1996, and I wish to table Tabled Document 11-13(4), the Legal Services Board of the Northwest Territories Annual Report for 1995/96, and Tabled Document 12-13(4), the Annual Report for 1994/95. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table a letter, and a discussion paper, entitled, Amalgamation of Infrastructure Department, Tabled Document 13-13(4). This document excludes page four of the discussion paper that I have received.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table a letter to the Premier, John Todd, and Kelvin Ng, Tabled Document 14-13(4). It is from the Inuvik Indian Band, from the Chief. It is in regards to Section 10 of the Gwich'in Agreement.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document, Tabled Document 15-13(4), a letter from the mayor of Gjoa Haven, Hamlet of Gjoa Haven, Mr. Terry McCallum, to the RCMP G Division, here in Yellowknife, regarding the community request for detachment office facility for Gjoa Haven. Thank you.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Notices of motion. Mr. Dent, your point ofoOrder.

Point Of Order

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Actually, Mr. Speaker, I am not sure if this is a point of order, or a point of privilege, but I will make my point, and let you decide. It has to do with Mr. Henry's Member's statement this morning.

Mr. Speaker, Cabinet has not discussed the constitutional package put out by the Constitutional Working Group. Therefore, the government has no position. In his member's statement this morning, Mr. Henry said, I believe, that this government has adopted a paternalistic approach to aboriginal people which will only divide aboriginal and non-aboriginals. He then said that the draft constitution is an example of this approach. Mr. Speaker, I would argue that this is misleading the public to allege that this position has been taken, particularly in light of Mr. Antoine's statement yesterday, which does reflect the position of this government.

Mr. Antoine in his statement yesterday pointed out that the draft constitution package highlighted one model, but it also proposed two others. It will hopefully inspire many further variations. He went on to say that "the Constitutional Working Group was not seeking comments on the one model only. It wanted to encourage full public discussion to develop an approach which would have widespread support and could be put forth for consideration by all residents and the Government of Canada."

Mr. Henry implied that the government had led the process of drafting the package presented by the Constitutional Working Group. When in fact the Constitutional Working Group was given its mandate, and reported to the Constitutional Development Steering Committee. The government is not a member of that committee, Mr. Henry is. The public is likely to believe from Mr. Henry's statement that this government is trying to push one of the models for a constitution proposed by the Constitutional Working Group, when it is not.

Further, Mr. Speaker, as a member of the government, I am offended by Mr. Henry's statement that government is irresponsible. If I heard it correctly, he said, "this government endorsed a constitution", and then went on to say, "this is totally irresponsible of government". Mr. Speaker, as I said, as a member of government, I take offence at being labelled irresponsible, especially when no government endorsement has been given on this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause